Interracial Marriage and the Bible

[Athene]

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According to the dictionary, Drich..under "community". Quit pretending I've stated something insanely naive or over-the-top here; It's annoying and disingenuous as hell.

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I guess you are not aware the word's primary meaning supports what I am describing:
com·mu·ni·ty
/kəˈmyo͞onədē/
noun
   1. a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common "Rhode Island's Japanese community"

How can I speak to you as Not being insanely naive if your 'defination of 'community' does not even repersent the very dictionary you reference???

You guys absolutely kill me with your pomp and arrogance and then pretend that I am the one off base. Yes I do flourish and strut when I am right, but here's the thing... I only do it when I AM RIGHT! Not when I think I'm right or I am on one side of an argument or another... I genuinely research EVERYTHING I even look up common words and take absolutely nothing for granted. Why? Because 9xs out of 10 you people do what you did here with your reference of the word community. You assume you know something or the meaning of a word because of how it is used in your pop world view. In contrast I have never been able to take anything for granted, I assume nothing and always seek verification and the source. So when I tell you something simple, like:
According to whom/what? is this a product of well wishing?
Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped? or is this you taking the pulse of what you think this nation should be?
Again the only time race is not an issue is when you belong to one or another.

Is because i have done my research, and I do know while people of mixed races can be loved and yes accepted into society, they will never experience the bond one experiences as being apart of a racial community. (per the very definition of the word I cut and pasted, not your hippy blue state of mind.

Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped?

Reality.

Actually no, you tapped what you thought was the definition of the word community, but were too lazy to actually check to see if you were right.

Drich, you need to understand something: You're nowhere near as slick as you believe yourself to be, so enough with the deliberate misrepresentations and diversions, Sport. I know, that you know PRECISELY what the fuck I'm talking about.

Stop "feeling"/being lead by hate and emotion and listen to me for one second. I have no doubt everything you 'feel' is correct in your little corner of the world. But understand the world is a very big big place and the vast majority of the 7 billion people on this planet do not think as you do. If you were to just take how India and Chine views race, and even their own social classes with in their races more than 1/2 of the world's population stands in direct contrast to your liberal idea of "community." Now google this before you speak and make yourself look foolish. These people do indeed view the world in what did you call it "Binary belief that one must belong to one community or not at all." Again, maybe for you and all of the little people in your little home town or even state may believe as you do. I have acknowledged your beliefs, and set them aside because in this instance I am speaking on how the WORLD WORKS. Not the people Just in your little corner of it.

I'm talking about your attempts to paint me as some sort of liberal twit or clueless Pollyanna, who doesn't get how the fucking world works.

I'm not the one with the paint sport-ress. You are painting yourself to be clueless because your world view does not include verifiable fact. Just in this last post of yours you have demonstrated this. I asked you for source material and you provided a dictionary definition that does not completely represent the word as it is being use or framed by me.

So then again, how is it I am supposed to take you seriously?

I am not under the illusion that "race is not an issue".  I can guarantee you that I most certainly know better than that; So you can knock it the hell off from here on out. You don't get to misrepresent me because you're too puffed up and full of pride to admit that you clearly misspoke.

Are you of mixed race? Do you take on the traits of one race verse the other?
 

YOU are the one that made a demonstrably false statement in one of your earlier posts on this thread, in declaring that the offspring of interracial couples CANNOT feel a sense of community or belonging, as a blanket statement with no additional caveats.

Then please demonstrate this to be false. Show me how say a 1/2 white 1/2 Chinese person who maybe looks a little more white than Chinese, will be completely accepted into a traditional Chinese community. (one that forbids the mixing of races) Of Indian which in their cast system looks at interbreeding among the various casts (same race) as being forbidden, let alone a true foreigner.

Again, your metric, your understanding ONLY WORKS where you live MAYBE... You seem to have NO Idea of how the rest of the world works. Even Oprah seems to think that lighter skinned black people are discriminated against heavily in the black community here in america:

two of Oprah's lighter-skinned audience members surprise Iyanla with the colorism discrimination they face as well.

Though one of the women has seen first-hand how some of her darker-skinned family members are treated, she says that she, too, struggled with discrimination. "Being a light-skinned girl, you get called names," she tells Iyanla. "You get called 'lite-brite,' you get called 'high yellow,' 'redbone.' This is a reality every day."

Having longer hair or lighter skin, she continues, makes others in her community assume she thinks she is prettier than them -- something she says simply isn't true. "You're alienated from your own people. You're never black enough," she says. "But we're still black in America. None of us feel advantaged."

Iyanla finds this prejudice against lighter-skinned black women very interesting. "Both the dark and the light are experiencing the same thing at different ends of the spectrum," she says before turning to the woman who had shared her story. "You got insulted by being called 'high yellow' or 'redbone,' but somebody [darker] being called a 'coon,' a 'jiggaboo,' and a 'monkey,' --"

"We're called that too," another light-skinned audience member interrupts. "We're called 'coon' and 'jiggaboo' and all those same things too. We're still called that on top of 'light bright' and all those other things."

"So the outside world that sees you as just a black person heaps the black stuff on you and then within the community, you get it," Iyanla says. "Wow."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13...88825.html

Does this sound like all are being treated equally in this given community here is the US? Black and white is the most common racial divide and therefore more pressure is placed on those communities to 'Play well' with each other, yet here is one of many articals I have found on 'color-ism.' If all is as you say and everyone is welcome then why is 'color-ism' a thing in this 'community?' (my defination/dictionary primary, not yours)

Yet another example of how clueless you seem to be. It would seem YOUR Personal experience is the exception and not how the rule of the world works.

You're at fault for allowing your bias to prompt you to make such an outlandishly stupid claim. I responded to your initial claim by simply stating the obvious: That race and/or racial identity is not the ONLY issue or means through which people can experience a sense of community or belonging. 

Nor is it he ALWAYS the primary driving force that motivates ALL people, in ALL manner of things, at EVERY moment of existence, as you foolishly insist on maintaining in your desperate attempt to be "right".

Again, I at no point said a mix race people could not be loved of socially accepted. I said They will simply never belong to a specific racial community as someone who has both parents being of the same race.

And what's more I have posted several examples of racial division concerning people of mixed races.

Bottom line I bring facts to this discussion you are trying to argue emotion and 'feeling.' The way you want the world to work.. Here's the thing. It doesn't! Once people like you truly sees the frame work of the world you might have a chance in changing something, but if you just keep insisting your feelings on how the world works is how the world works you like all those like you are doomed to fail outside of your own little 'communities'.

Consistency, Drich....You have no people, remember?

We are not a race/community. However we are a social group of human beings/people of which I am a member. like it or not.

Anyhow, Sure. I see that you've now "adjusted" your statement  by acknowledging that biracial individuals CAN in fact belong to a community "social group".  I'm guessing that the fact you've just dismantled what is essentially the main premise of your entire argument  will be summarily dismissed by you from this point on, correct? 

nice strawman, but if you were to look back at the beginning of my last post to divinity I opened with:

Actually I give the illusion of being a f-ing b-hole.. If you guys stopped and thought about what i am actually saying
you might actually agree with a point or two.. I know this to be true because many of you think your argueing against me, but are using the very same points i am using.

Again I have always said while we can be loved... while we can be apart of a social group... we will never be apart of a community. Again the word community meaning the primary definition I posted at the top of the page, not your hippy only definition. Nothing's changed in my argument, only your perception. You see you built a straw man of my argument based on your naive definition of community, and because you do not understand the word can mean more that what you have been able to define you assume my position was the polar oppsite of yours. It wasn't.

Of course, it will. That's why you insist on assigning me with shit I never stated, and persist in attempting suck me into a vortex unrelated side garbage throughout this post. Clearly you're the the type of person who would sooner die, than admit that one of the primary tenets in your declaration of "Truth" is just plain fucking wrong.

You are correct. I will NEVER Admit to being wrong even unto death when I know my vetted information is 100% correct.

 

No. You don't feel as such.

In reality, many matter-of-factly UNDERSTAND and accept that they simply have more than one racial heritage. 
You'll just continue to "overlook" this very crucial element in continuing your ridiculous narrative, yes?    

A racial heritage that they/we will never be able to be fully apart of.
Again, even in this country Even among the most common racial divide, Oprah herself is trying to acknoweledge and bring awareness to "colorism"/bigotry of people not of pure racial decent.

...Yet you would have me believe someone who has experienced this divide 40+ years and spoken with hundreds if not thousands of other people like me who also experience this divide, we are all wrong.. because of how you personally define humanity?!?!? PLUEEZE

It does not make sense because you are not willing to look at this situation from any other way.

again What I am saying interracial couples take from their children are a 100,000+ years of racial identity. This Will NEVER be replaced by anything else. Yet you want to take this racial identity and replace it with a sentiment that 'society should have' via pop moral standards. To which again I point out that these standards are fleeting, and can change within a person's life time. Yet Racial identity from people of a given race with never change with in those people. Because it about a common blood line and a tangible history, not about a fad or the current popular thinking.

Judging by the post above, it almost seems as if your disdain actually stems from resentment at being robbed of racial purity, rather than racial identity. I hope like hell that your argument isn't actually just some stupid, self-loathing expression of being pissed that you're "not quite white"...because that would just be too sickening and pathetic for words.

Now you get it I see.
Now understand these are not my words... These are words I've heard all my life. My question is what can a parent or even family offer to off set these words?

Roflol..
So you don't think race influences ALL of those things? Not that one can't go beyond racial lines, but again I'm asking do you honestly think that race does not heavily influence a decision on any of those topics?

If I were Arab do you not think Islam or my belief in it would not be tied to my people heritage in anyway?
Or if I were Israeli my military service would not be compelled by my community?
What about if I were black or better yet Not black if I were all white do you think it would allow me to say run a chapter of the NAACP without their being a huge controversy?
Do you think If I were black do you think I could pick up any job I wanted in say Korea?

The truth whether you can admit to it or not is that Race defines who we are in the world. granted your little corner may want to pretend to see color, but the world is much bigger place than the 'blue states' would have us believe. In most of the rest of the world culture is Everything, it is identity, it is who and what you are. To you this may be racism, but it is the way the world works beyond the shame of white guilt/those who make white people feel guilty.
Or would you tell an American Indian that he is wrong/raciest for segregating himself on his own sovereign land and seeking to preserve his culture? would you tell a black man he is wrong for seeking to identify and establish his own cultural identity even if it meant he had to be apart of a counter cultural (non-violent) movement? Would you tell a Chinese family that they must 'americanize' themselves and to abandon their culture if it did not accept people as you do?

Or did you just mean white people must blend in with everyone and accept people as if they were with out color?
Because that is the only way your little statement works without the destruction of thousands and thousands of years of unique history and culture.

Hmm. These questions could've been quite challenging to answer, IF I'd ever been arguing the point you've been PRETENDING I am...Classic dick move, btw.

Not entirely unexpected, since you know your original argument is shit.
Back to lab then, yes?

If you believe that the world does not view race in "binary terms" then the above statement does indeed address your position 110%

I am demonstrating that several different cultures can and do indeed see race in 'binary terms.' You say it doesn't so my question to you is, if you are right how do you explain the types of attitudes I have outlined above?

Again, these are not my words, but words I have heard all my life arguing against my existence. So please take all your blue state philosophy, and help people like me answer these arguments. Or does none of this matter to you because it does not apply to you in your sheltered existence?

Perhaps. 
But, your box is much, much smaller, and smells like  ass.

Crack a window, Drich. It fucking stinks in there.

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So, maybe this time before you go off half cocked and use more of my own arguments to try and subdue me, read what I wrote here, then I will pull all of this together into a 'teaching moment.'

 

LOL...What a steaming pile! 

Get these words through that thick fucking skull of yours, Sport:

Now learn to live with it.

[Regina]

That post is a fucking novel, I don't have the time

I do have to wonder what conservative Christians must make of my situation though... fags and interracial to boot? Ooh the squirming... or do they cancel out when there's no potential babies involved?

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Post #79: 900 miles of BS.

[Pat Mustard]

I know it is not the truth because it is a blend of cultural mycths created by iron age goat fuckers and the delusional rattlings of what passes for your brain. Nothing you have ever typed into these fora has any relationship to reality.

Sonny boy, you've been here for only a short time you have no idea what  I've written in the past. It's good to see your childish remarks are still showing your poor ability to communicate. All you said above doesn't say a thing except that you have no idea what you're talking about.

GC

1) I can go into your profie and review your posting history. But the drivel you've written sice I've joined, uninformed, dogmatic, dismmisive of evidence and so on, is ample evidence that you've nothing useful to add to most discussions.
2) You're giving out about my responses to you, yet all you do is throw baseless assumptions around and dismiss my arguments without inspecting them (and before you cry tu quoque, I have heard your arguments and similar for years out of the mouths of others, I was catholic for about 17 years [from 3 to 20] before I educated myself in my religion and found it was utter bullshit, which translates to all other forms of christianity). So before you go about dismissing others read the meat of their argument. I have yours, you cannot say you have mine.

[Godscreated]

Sonny boy, you've been here for only a short time you have no idea what  I've written in the past. It's good to see your childish remarks are still showing your poor ability to communicate. All you said above doesn't say a thing except that you have no idea what you're talking about.

GC

1) I can go into your profie and review your posting history. But the drivel you've written sice I've joined, uninformed, dogmatic, dismmisive of evidence and so on, is ample evidence that you've nothing useful to add to most discussions.
2) You're giving out about my responses to you, yet all you do is throw baseless assumptions around and dismiss my arguments without inspecting them (and before you cry tu quoque, I have heard your arguments and similar for years out of the mouths of others, I was catholic for about 17 years [from 3 to 20] before I educated myself in my religion and found it was utter bullshit, which translates to all other forms of christianity). So before you go about dismissing others read the meat of their argument. I have yours, you cannot say you have mine.

Sure I can say the same, I've seen the meat of your arguments, vile wording that gains you no respect from me, no proof of anything. Such as you believe goat herders wrote the Bible and I don't know of one goat herder that wrote any book in the Bible. Catholics are a far cry from the protestants especially the Baptist, which I happen to be one. I don't believe all the Baptist doctrine, actually I disagree with major points, yet that doesn't make us any less of brothers and sisters in Christ. You see I've noticed you post you practiced a religion, that's was your mistake, Christianity has and always will be a personal relationship with God and until you can understand this you will only see a religion. By the way you have presented no evidence to dismiss. You want anything more from me than you've received so far act like an adult who can carry on a civil conversation.

GC

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Here's a link to a relevant article.  A Texas white girl has a black boyfriend and her father is pissed enough about it to kick her out of his life if she won't break it off.  Of course it got on Twitter and the couple has received a lot of support from around the world.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/...%20p$3

[Nihilist Virus]

Im actually at an interracial marriage right now at the reception. Im sitting at the table with my mixed race bisexual gf, an interracial gay couple, a single gay guy, a hetero couple and 2 single guys.


Not even making this up.

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Such as you believe goat herders wrote the Bible and I don't know of one goat herder that wrote any book in the Bible.

Who said goat herders wrote the Bible? The Bible was written by racist, sexist, conquesting, genocidal, slave-driving rapists.

Catholics are a far cry from the protestants especially the Baptist, which I happen to be one.

This explains a lot actually. Baptists are always putting up church signs about how Jesus wants to come inside you but when you go to the service it's clearly false advertising. Similarly you say the Bible has no errors but when it comes time to defend that claim you suddenly cannot type.

[Drich]

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I guess you are not aware the word's primary meaning supports what I am describing:
com·mu·ni·ty
/kəˈmyo͞onədē/
noun
   1. a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common "Rhode Island's Japanese community"

How can I speak to you as Not being insanely naive if your 'defination of 'community' does not even repersent the very dictionary you reference???

You guys absolutely kill me with your pomp and arrogance and then pretend that I am the one off base. Yes I do flourish and strut when I am right, but here's the thing... I only do it when I AM RIGHT! Not when I think I'm right or I am on one side of an argument or another... I genuinely research EVERYTHING I even look up common words and take absolutely nothing for granted. Why? Because 9xs out of 10 you people do what you did here with your reference of the word community. You assume you know something or the meaning of a word because of how it is used in your pop world view. In contrast I have never been able to take anything for granted, I assume nothing and always seek verification and the source. So when I tell you something simple, like:
According to whom/what? is this a product of well wishing?
Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped? or is this you taking the pulse of what you think this nation should be?
Again the only time race is not an issue is when you belong to one or another.

Is because i have done my research, and I do know while people of mixed races can be loved and yes accepted into society, they will never experience the bond one experiences as being apart of a racial community. (per the very definition of the word I cut and pasted, not your hippy blue state of mind.

Actually no, you tapped what you thought was the definition of the word community, but were too lazy to actually check to see if you were right.

Stop "feeling"/being lead by hate and emotion and listen to me for one second. I have no doubt everything you 'feel' is correct in your little corner of the world. But understand the world is a very big big place and the vast majority of the 7 billion people on this planet do not think as you do. If you were to just take how India and Chine views race, and even their own social classes with in their races more than 1/2 of the world's population stands in direct contrast to your liberal idea of "community." Now google this before you speak and make yourself look foolish. These people do indeed view the world in what did you call it "Binary belief that one must belong to one community or not at all." Again, maybe for you and all of the little people in your little home town or even state may believe as you do. I have acknowledged your beliefs, and set them aside because in this instance I am speaking on how the WORLD WORKS. Not the people Just in your little corner of it.

I'm not the one with the paint sport-ress. You are painting yourself to be clueless because your world view does not include verifiable fact. Just in this last post of yours you have demonstrated this. I asked you for source material and you provided a dictionary definition that does not completely represent the word as it is being use or framed by me.

So then again, how is it I am supposed to take you seriously?
Are you of mixed race? Do you take on the traits of one race verse the other?
 
Then please demonstrate this to be false. Show me how say a 1/2 white 1/2 Chinese person who maybe looks a little more white than Chinese, will be completely accepted into a traditional Chinese community. (one that forbids the mixing of races) Of Indian which in their cast system looks at interbreeding among the various casts (same race) as being forbidden, let alone a true foreigner.

Again, your metric, your understanding ONLY WORKS where you live MAYBE... You seem to have NO Idea of how the rest of the world works. Even Oprah seems to think that lighter skinned black people are discriminated against heavily in the black community here in america:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13...88825.html

Does this sound like all are being treated equally in this given community here is the US? Black and white is the most common racial divide and therefore more pressure is placed on those communities to 'Play well' with each other, yet here is one of many articals I have found on 'color-ism.' If all is as you say and everyone is welcome then why is 'color-ism' a thing in this 'community?' (my defination/dictionary primary, not yours)

Yet another example of how clueless you seem to be. It would seem YOUR Personal experience is the exception and not how the rule of the world works.


Again, I at no point said a mix race people could not be loved of socially accepted. I said They will simply never belong to a specific racial community as someone who has both parents being of the same race.

And what's more I have posted several examples of racial division concerning people of mixed races.

Bottom line I bring facts to this discussion you are trying to argue emotion and 'feeling.' The way you want the world to work.. Here's the thing. It doesn't! Once people like you truly sees the frame work of the world you might have a chance in changing something, but if you just keep insisting your feelings on how the world works is how the world works you like all those like you are doomed to fail outside of your own little 'communities'.

We are not a race/community. However we are a social group of human beings/people of which I am a member. like it or not.

nice strawman, but if you were to look back at the beginning of my last post to divinity I opened with:

Again I have always said while we can be loved... while we can be apart of a social group... we will never be apart of a community. Again the word community meaning the primary definition I posted at the top of the page, not your hippy only definition. Nothing's changed in my argument, only your perception. You see you built a straw man of my argument based on your naive definition of community, and because you do not understand the word can mean more that what you have been able to define you assume my position was the polar oppsite of yours. It wasn't.

You are correct. I will NEVER Admit to being wrong even unto death when I know my vetted information is 100% correct.

 
A racial heritage that they/we will never be able to be fully apart of.
Again, even in this country Even among the most common racial divide, Oprah herself is trying to acknoweledge and bring awareness to "colorism"/bigotry of people not of pure racial decent.

...Yet you would have me believe someone who has experienced this divide 40+ years and spoken with hundreds if not thousands of other people like me who also experience this divide, we are all wrong.. because of how you personally define humanity?!?!? PLUEEZE


Now you get it I see.
Now understand these are not my words... These are words I've heard all my life. My question is what can a parent or even family offer to off set these words?


If you believe that the world does not view race in "binary terms" then the above statement does indeed address your position 110%

I am demonstrating that several different cultures can and do indeed see race in 'binary terms.' You say it doesn't so my question to you is, if you are right how do you explain the types of attitudes I have outlined above?

Again, these are not my words, but words I have heard all my life arguing against my existence. So please take all your blue state philosophy, and help people like me answer these arguments. Or does none of this matter to you because it does not apply to you in your sheltered existence?

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So, maybe this time before you go off half cocked and use more of my own arguments to try and subdue me, read what I wrote here, then I will pull all of this together into a 'teaching moment.'

 

LOL...What a steaming pile! 

Get these words through that thick fucking skull of yours, Sport:

Now learn to live with it.

Wow.. Just wow...

You people are really self righteous douche bags, who don't know nor don't care how the real world works. That my frail and fragile little 'precious' is because you have been protected your whole life by the shield and sense of belonging/community you get from belonging to a race of people. The very thing that one takes away from their kids (When they do not favor/look like one race more strongly than the other) when they decide to marry someone of a different race. So again I ask what happens to the child when he is challenged about his race? This kid has to be super strong and secure on his own background because he is indeed completely independent/on his own. Like I said before their won't be a larger group of his particular mix coming to save him if a bunch of others of another race is beating him up. No one can stand up and point to thousands of years of pride and heritage.

So where does this strength HAVE to Come From?? his selfish parents! The Parents will be the only ones in a position to give this kid all the tools he will need to meet the challenges of all the people I pointed to that you did not want to answer in post 71:

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So... the rest of the world you mean? or is this more of the white guilt i was talking about in the other posts? Again, what if I weren't white? What if I were American Indian looking to preserve what's left of my culture? what if in order to do that i and other of my tribe feel a need to close ranks and expel all outside influences?

Are you saying American Indians who think this way are "moron assholes just taking up your oxygen??" If so what should 'we' do with them? Or again does your philosophy only apply to white people?

What if I were a black woman who does not agree with your white grandaughter 'stealing one of our good black men?' Is she then also an asshole moron who is just breathing up all your oxygen? If so What should be done with her and people like her?

In essence what is wrong with people of any given race (especially if they are in the minority) who want to preserve their heritage, if in fact it does not include those of different races?

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The Parents Have to be able to Answer ALL of the Questions and challenges like the ones I provided and many many more. And what's more they have to find a balance between those who rightfully balance honor and racial tradition like the American Indian or the Black woman I mentioned, yet help their kids find the self worth they need to survive. A Parent can not do this if all the can think about is different color 'sugar.' Or better yet looking to be offended when someone stares a 1/2 second longer than they should.

Why?

Because If you as an adult can not answer these questions then what hope does your kid have? Do you really think pouting, and posting a willie wonka youtube video will help a halvie/mixed kid fend off anyone of those people? Do you think he will be able to develop the where with all to come up with a personal philosphy that will allow him to live in a world that demands these answers, and yet some how still maintain his own self worth??? Will he be able to understand the world not only has the right to ask those questions, I will also favor or protect those who do? What does that mean for this kid, if the parents can not help him or her?

THAT My Self righteous Douche bag is what I mean by Selfish! I don't know one mixed person that I have ever spoken with who has had any preparation to deal with the demands the world will make on them. Why? Because again interracial couple seldom think of anyone other than themselves, and even then not far enough down the road to help themselves and not have their marriages self destruct let alone give their kids all they need to deal with the world they will have to live in.

Me calling interracial couples selfish is a goad or test to see how they will respond. are they mature enough to meet a challenge or will they run from it or simply lash back? To meet the challenge is to not only turn the other cheek but it is also to phrase a response that allows one to not only preserve the racial identity of the person bring the question, but to reaffirm their choice and their children racial status. This is the only type of person ready for a interracial marriage.

I even demonstrated this when in this thread I myself was in an interracial relationship when I said (I gots me a white woman). Being call selfish means nothing, when you know you are prepared to deal with the challenges you will face together. What's more if a interracial couple is not prepared to deal with all comers in a respectful way no matter how harshly they may come, then they absolutely do not need to be married/they are married for absolutely the wrong reasons, and time will indeed flush them out. Unfortunately in most cases it would seem that this will not happen before they have kids. Kids ill prepared to deal with the world to come. Which again points back to a selfish parent!

So yeah, just keep defending the right of people to not give two thoughts about the future nor the challenges their kids may face, just because it 'feels' like the right thing to do. Because no one should ever question anyone about anything anyone ever does so long as no one gets hurt... well hurt meaning (apparently) blood or broken bones.

[BrokenQuill92]

Enough Drich! I'm so tired of your "tragic mulatto" bullshit! I am mostly black girl from a long line of race mixing. Guess what life is hard. There are white people who don't like me because I'm an uppity negro. There blacks who don't like me for the same reason. There are Latino people who say I'm not Latina because I know two words of Spanish. On top of it there people who think I shouldn't exist because of my disability, my sexuality, because I'm fat, because my damned second toe is longer than the first.

There's always going to be some asshole who wants to voice an opinion on what I do with my vagina. They can go to hell. And so can you.

[Crossless2.0]

Epic, Quill.