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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 5, 2016 at 2:47 pm
(March 5, 2016 at 2:45 pm)KUSA Wrote: (March 5, 2016 at 2:36 pm)Mermaid Wrote: So are we choosing the new leader of the free world, or are we looking for a good bitchfight? This is not reality TV, it's real life with real consequences. Perspective, people!
Elections are reality TV. If this was simply a matter of issues the candidates could just submit their resumes to the people.
They are not reality TV. People like you frighten me. This isn't a game.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 5, 2016 at 2:52 pm
A joke my wife told me the other day:
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are on a boat which capsizes. Who survives?
America.
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March 5, 2016 at 3:00 pm
(March 5, 2016 at 2:47 pm)Mermaid Wrote: They are not reality TV. Sure it is. Look at Obama's original campaign, Hope and Change. Nobody had a fucking clue what that shit meant. It just appealed to so many idiots. One woman was on TV saying that Obama was going to pay for her gas and make her house payment. I have actually met people that believed this was going to happen. They were let down when the check never came.
http://youtu.be/P36x8rTb3jI
Quote:People like you frighten me.
It must not take much to frighten you. Some person on the internet that likes Trump makes you tremble. Jesus Christ.
Quote:This isn't a game.
Life is a game. Learn to play it well and you won't be so afraid all the time.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 5, 2016 at 3:03 pm
(March 5, 2016 at 3:00 pm)KUSA Wrote: (March 5, 2016 at 2:47 pm)Mermaid Wrote: They are not reality TV. Sure it is. Look at Obama's original campaign, Hope and Change. Nobody had a fucking clue what that shit meant. It just appealed to so many idiots. One woman was on TV saying that Obama was going to pay for her gas and make her house payment. I have actually met people that believed this was going to happen. They were let down when the check never came.
http://youtu.be/P36x8rTb3jI
Quote:People like you frighten me.
It must not take much to frighten you. Some person on the internet that likes Trump makes you tremble. Jesus Christ.
Quote:This isn't a game.
Life is a game. Learn to play it well and you won't be so afraid all the time. Okay, good talk.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 5, 2016 at 3:37 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2016 at 3:40 pm by vorlon13.)
Wonder what the memes are going to look like a year from now ??
BTW; I must still be going to the wrong 12 Steppers meeting, regardless of income level or homeless status,
and despite my getting a new Sammy, everyone else there has a better phone than I do.
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Trump versus Clinton?
March 5, 2016 at 4:22 pm
(March 5, 2016 at 3:37 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Wonder what the memes are going to look like a year from now ??
BTW; I must still be going to the wrong 12 Steppers meeting, regardless of income level or homeless status,
and despite my getting a new Sammy, everyone else there has a better phone than I do.
They made a catchy song about that phone.
http://youtu.be/Ax-2i71bqGw
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March 5, 2016 at 4:32 pm
Looks like the Obama phone lady woke up.
http://youtu.be/dLZuKGTZlEY
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 5, 2016 at 9:12 pm
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(March 5, 2016 at 2:41 am)Heat Wrote: (March 5, 2016 at 1:01 am)Sterben Wrote: With the current in fighting on both sides of the issues going on in this country. The rich trying to protect themselves from having to provide for there workers and keep there massive wallets from deflating. They also helped the education system down to record lows(Not all of them, but a lot of them did), they don't want critical thinkers exiting outside of themselves. They have taken our unions, our retirement, and the option to have A affordable collage education without there friends at the banks making a profit as well. They want to take the healthcare back as well, it's not complete cycle till they can take everything from us that does not benefit them. The majority of the rich "Hey you non-rich guy, bend over and touch your toes. We forgot something that you have left, your dignity is what was left.
The middle and poor classes want a fair shot at life, a chance to become rich without having to be the ass slaves of the rich. I know that we will not get a chance to get what was taken back, we can protect what is left though. Trump is the robber that will be visiting our houses, bank accounts, and what is left of the money we do have. He will ask for it back under the guiding hand that we the middle and the poor invest by force into the American economy to make the rich more money. We get screwed like a Trump real-state investor. Don't worry though, we will provide you a nice slap in the face every time you bitch and moan about something. We will also provide you with the same stock answer's when you ask for something. You have to work ass for it, if you want it you have to chase your dreams. I know a good bank that will help fiance your collage dreams, only at the a high rate though. My friend Mike and his family need a second private plane, they only the one. You will always be paying us for the chance to go to collage and possibly become one of us in the future.
Trump will probably win with a landsliding victory, Clinton has the ability but not turnout at the moment to take trump on. Don't forget he still has the Email scandal as a weapon against her, and Trump is good at selling his brand to Idiots. Which a lot of people will vote for him cause they think he is successful. Isn't that the problem?
Donald Trump is "Selling his brand to idiots". Hillary Clinton is fake. Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton would become something like that of a playground game, "She's a liar."
The problem I see after reading your post, is that Trump could very easily say "Hillary is a liar", and they would believe it. AND he will have evidence. There's a list of things Hillary has lied about, Trump can just point to a few of them and stretch the truth immensely, and his minions will believe it because saying "You're exaggerating" is far less compelling an argument than saying "You're wrong", which Hillary can't necessarily do.
In order for Hillary to win she would need to play dirty. Bernie can beat every candidate on policies, and track records. Hillary however, doesn't have a good track record, or super good policies for that matter. She's been very sketchy in the past. So where Bernie could take the high road vs Trump and pull a victory, I don't think the same will be true for Hillary.
The way to beat Donald Trump, something the republican base is starting to figure out is this;
Just repeatedly call him a con man.
"Look at Trump University, Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, Trump etc. All these businesses FAILED. You conned so many people out of money over the years (Exhibit A, B). So if you are a notorious CON MAN, what's to say you aren't simply conning the American People?". To which that person should turn to the audience and say; "Do you not get it? HE'S CONNING YOU, YOU FOOLS! He's been taking advantage of people his entire life. HE'S TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOU! DO YOU THINK HE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP YOU? HE'S HELPING HIMSELF LIKE ALWAYS!" Let the people speak and what they say is honest according to a mob. If the group wants to believe that Trump is a honest man they will lead others to believe it without doing a bit of research on there own or using a critical thought process. Modern Republicans don't want to be the adult at the table, they are backwards and operate only with dollar signs; as does all politicians but, the Republicans are the worse and most greedy at it. People need to realize that Trump is only out for himself and his powerful financial friends. He cares nothing about your healthcare unless big business get's a cut. The minimum wage he does not care about since he does not want lower incomes moving into homes. I would not be shocked if he does win and he opens many new neighborhoods developed by others and his brand name is slapped all over it. Once the old tenants are kicked out and put into a Trump level one city to make his white business criminals friends to make a other golf course out of.
If were going to beat him we have to stop attacking him from the front and flank him from the side. I wounder if he is hiding anything from the I.R.S? He likes to play with lawyers, so can we. I suggest that we has a country get a legal fund and stop him in court since he loves to sue. Get the Democrats and Republicans who don't like him to work together for once and derail him. Don't they read The Art of War, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." If we don't stop him now, we would be as irresponsible as a German knowing that Hitler is a bad man and does nothing to stop him.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 6, 2016 at 1:20 am
(March 5, 2016 at 9:12 pm)Sterben Wrote: (March 5, 2016 at 2:41 am)Heat Wrote: Isn't that the problem?
Donald Trump is "Selling his brand to idiots". Hillary Clinton is fake. Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton would become something like that of a playground game, "She's a liar."
The problem I see after reading your post, is that Trump could very easily say "Hillary is a liar", and they would believe it. AND he will have evidence. There's a list of things Hillary has lied about, Trump can just point to a few of them and stretch the truth immensely, and his minions will believe it because saying "You're exaggerating" is far less compelling an argument than saying "You're wrong", which Hillary can't necessarily do.
In order for Hillary to win she would need to play dirty. Bernie can beat every candidate on policies, and track records. Hillary however, doesn't have a good track record, or super good policies for that matter. She's been very sketchy in the past. So where Bernie could take the high road vs Trump and pull a victory, I don't think the same will be true for Hillary.
The way to beat Donald Trump, something the republican base is starting to figure out is this;
Just repeatedly call him a con man.
"Look at Trump University, Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, Trump etc. All these businesses FAILED. You conned so many people out of money over the years (Exhibit A, B). So if you are a notorious CON MAN, what's to say you aren't simply conning the American People?". To which that person should turn to the audience and say; "Do you not get it? HE'S CONNING YOU, YOU FOOLS! He's been taking advantage of people his entire life. HE'S TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOU! DO YOU THINK HE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP YOU? HE'S HELPING HIMSELF LIKE ALWAYS!" Let the people speak and what they say is honest according to a mob. If the group wants to believe that Trump is a honest man they will lead others to believe it without doing a bit of research on there own or using a critical thought process. Modern Republicans don't want to be the adult at the table, they are backwards and operate only with dollar signs; as does all politicians but, the Republicans are the worse and most greedy at it. People need to realize that Trump is only out for himself and his powerful financial friends. He cares nothing about your healthcare unless big business get's a cut. The minimum wage he does not care about since he does not want lower incomes moving into homes. I would not be shocked if he does win and he opens many new neighborhoods developed by others and his brand name is slapped all over it. Once the old tenants are kicked out and put into a Trump level one city to make his white business criminals friends to make a other golf course out of.
If were going to beat him we have to stop attacking him from the front and flank him from the side. I wounder if he is hiding anything from the I.R.S? He likes to play with lawyers, so can we. I suggest that we has a country get a legal fund and stop him in court since he loves to sue. Get the Democrats and Republicans who don't like him to work together for once and derail him. Don't they read The Art of War, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." If we don't stop him now, we would be as irresponsible as a German knowing that Hitler is a bad man and does nothing to stop him.
Do you mean the Republican party or the part of the general population that votes republican?
I think Trump believes the country is going down the tubes and he wants to fix the problems, almost like an act of self preservation.
A canadian study by psychologists found liberals six times more likely to lie and steal.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sherman-fre...eral-brain
By the way, why do you like communism or Lenin?
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 6, 2016 at 1:40 am
scoobysnack Wrote:I think Trump believes the country is going down the tubes and he wants to fix the problems, almost like an act of self preservation.
Oh, so he wants to fix problems just like every other fucking candidate? Gee I never knew he was so different.
scoobysnack Wrote:A canadian study by psychologists found liberals six times more likely to lie and steal.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sherman-fre...eral-brain Irrelevant, Implied Generalization, and Emotional manipulation with no relevancy or purpose other than discretely belittling a group because of a single study.
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