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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 18, 2016 at 4:39 pm
Here's an interesting website: The voice of the revolutionary communist party usa
http://revcom.us/
http://thisiscommunism.org/ThisIsCommunism/Home.html
I'll be looking closer at both of those sites.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 18, 2016 at 4:44 pm
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(March 18, 2016 at 12:55 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 12:31 am)Sterben Wrote: So would Sanders, if it was a open system with out state interference. It would be wrong to deny him, but in some cases you have deny some sometimes. His public comments promoting violence is not a good idea. His rally's are just a sea of white people, I can understand why people are upset though. Trump is not the answer to your problems. Trump is a idiot who attracts idiots to his cause which will ruin all the progress that has been made. I'm sure Trump is not fond of Homosexuals and will try to repeal the same sex marriage law and start a major war in the middle east. Based on Trump's comments he comes across as anti-war and non-interventionist.
If Hillary wins expect more losing wars. We'll be flooded with refugees like we got when her dummy husband screwed around in Somalia and in the Balkans.
Those incidents were light in comparison to what Bush did to the middle east. The rest of the world will have an American refugees crisis of there own if Trump is put into office. I'll tell you how this will play out, within six months of his presidency he would of dismantled all the policy's that our current president has put into place. If you have health care insurance expect your rates to go up cause of the health insurance company's will get the majority there control back. Let's jump forward a year, Trump has pissed off the middle east so much that oil prices shoot up to record highs cause of a trade embargo as well pissing off Russia and China to new levels. These actions will block most Americans from even having a fair shot at leaving the country cause of the damage he has caused. The military would have problems of there own, under Trump's leadership that causes a rift of power with him abusing air strikes, ground invasions, and spying on other country's leadership. As far the protection of our privacy that will be eroded further, his new positions on reporting will land journalist, bloggers, and any others who oppose him will be thrown imprisoned or sued to the point of ruin. Let's fast forward three years into his presidency. At this point he as become one of the most disliked presidents in our history. He has done massive harm to the U.S, a record number of Americans has fled to Canada and Mexico, some legally and some Illegally. The income gap would of grown so far apart, that the rich has taken control of almost everything; leaving the newly poor from the middle class only get scraps. That is the reality were are facing with this man, I'm hoping my message helps people understand that this is highly possible. I know Hillary is not a good choice either, I have never liked her nor do I want to support her. Since I'm an adult I have to vote someone and she is the best possible place holder till 2020 when a fresh chance comes along.
IF you think the environment is bad now, wait till he get's a hold of it. The entire U.S will be crisis just like Flint is now, from the expansion of Fracking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ApZkNsXfJE
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 18, 2016 at 4:54 pm
The big problem with this analysis is that Cruz is the only other choice.....and he is every bit as big a scumbag as that fuckhead Drumpf.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...30015.html
Quote:GOP Primary Outcome Is in Kasich's Hands
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 18, 2016 at 4:55 pm
(March 18, 2016 at 4:44 pm)Sterben Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 12:55 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Based on Trump's comments he comes across as anti-war and non-interventionist.
If Hillary wins expect more losing wars. We'll be flooded with refugees like we got when her dummy husband screwed around in Somalia and in the Balkans.
Those incidents were light in comparison to what Bush did to the middle east. The rest of the world will have an American refugees crisis of there own if Trump is put into office. I'll tell you how this will play out, within six months of his presidency he would of dismantled all the policy's that our current president has put into place. If you have health care insurance expect your rates to go up cause of the health insurance company's will get the majority there control back. Let's jump forward a year, Trump has pissed off the middle east so much that oil prices shoot up to record highs cause of a trade embargo as well pissing off Russia and China to new levels. These actions will block most Americans from even having a fair shot at leaving the country cause of the damage he has caused. The military would have problems of there own, under Trump's leadership that causes a rift of power with him abusing air strikes, ground invasions, and spying on other country's leadership. As far the protection of our privacy that will be eroded further, his new positions on reporting will land journalist, bloggers, and any others who oppose him will be thrown imprisoned or sued to the point of ruin. Let's fast forward three years into his presidency. At this point he as become one of the most disliked presidents in our history. He has done massive harm to the U.S, a record number of Americans has fled to Canada and Mexico, some legally and some Illegally. The income gap would of grown so far apart, that the rich has taken control of almost everything; leaving the newly poor from the middle class only get scraps. That is the reality were are facing with this man, I'm hoping my message helps people understand that this is highly possible. I know Hillary is not a good choice either, I have never liked her nor do I want to support her. Since I'm an adult I have to vote someone and she is the best possible place holder till 2020 when a fresh chance comes along.
It sound far fetched to his followers, even ridiculous, but lots of Germans and even some Jews, when Hitler first started making noise, that he was harmless. His own party is scared of his demagoguery and he flip flopped on his support of the nominee if he didn't win, and he is saying things like "there will be riots" if he doesn't win.
Chalking this kind of rhetoric to "meh, it's just a show", is a very big mistake. Jerry Springer and WWE may be fine for cable television, but it is completely dangerous in politics.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 18, 2016 at 5:04 pm
(March 18, 2016 at 4:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The big problem with this analysis is that Cruz is the only other choice.....and he is every bit as big a scumbag as that fuckhead Drumpf.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...30015.html
Quote:GOP Primary Outcome Is in Kasich's Hands
According to the metadata I've seen, Kasich beats Clinton by 7%, while Trump loses against her by 6%. Hard to respect a party so bent on biting off its own nose.
Let them nominate Trump. Or let them have a brokered convention. Either way, they lose.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 18, 2016 at 5:13 pm
(March 18, 2016 at 4:55 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 4:44 pm)Sterben Wrote: Those incidents were light in comparison to what Bush did to the middle east. The rest of the world will have an American refugees crisis of there own if Trump is put into office. I'll tell you how this will play out, within six months of his presidency he would of dismantled all the policy's that our current president has put into place. If you have health care insurance expect your rates to go up cause of the health insurance company's will get the majority there control back. Let's jump forward a year, Trump has pissed off the middle east so much that oil prices shoot up to record highs cause of a trade embargo as well pissing off Russia and China to new levels. These actions will block most Americans from even having a fair shot at leaving the country cause of the damage he has caused. The military would have problems of there own, under Trump's leadership that causes a rift of power with him abusing air strikes, ground invasions, and spying on other country's leadership. As far the protection of our privacy that will be eroded further, his new positions on reporting will land journalist, bloggers, and any others who oppose him will be thrown imprisoned or sued to the point of ruin. Let's fast forward three years into his presidency. At this point he as become one of the most disliked presidents in our history. He has done massive harm to the U.S, a record number of Americans has fled to Canada and Mexico, some legally and some Illegally. The income gap would of grown so far apart, that the rich has taken control of almost everything; leaving the newly poor from the middle class only get scraps. That is the reality were are facing with this man, I'm hoping my message helps people understand that this is highly possible. I know Hillary is not a good choice either, I have never liked her nor do I want to support her. Since I'm an adult I have to vote someone and she is the best possible place holder till 2020 when a fresh chance comes along.
It sound far fetched to his followers, even ridiculous, but lots of Germans and even some Jews, when Hitler first started making noise, that he was harmless. His own party is scared of his demagoguery and he flip flopped on his support of the nominee if he didn't win, and he is saying things like "there will be riots" if he doesn't win.
Chalking this kind of rhetoric to "meh, it's just a show", is a very big mistake. Jerry Springer and WWE may be fine for cable television, but it is completely dangerous in politics. His ideas are dangerous, your right this not a show this is real life! Angry white people need to calm down, we are in this together and the time for supporting pro white, or pro ______ whatever is over. Wake up smell the coffee, the effects are toxic if you support him. The GOP needs to make a major sacrifice here for the good of the country. I'm calling for the GOP to disband it's party now to prevent a major mistake from happening. I know it's radical but they can rebuild, they will be disliked for such A radical decision. It would be the only way to save the GOP from falling apart and offer a rare chance to reform it's self from the ground up. It's what a smart person would do if they have something that is so screwed up that it can't be fixed.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 18, 2016 at 5:16 pm
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(March 18, 2016 at 5:04 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (March 18, 2016 at 4:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The big problem with this analysis is that Cruz is the only other choice.....and he is every bit as big a scumbag as that fuckhead Drumpf.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...30015.html
According to the metadata I've seen, Kasich beats Clinton by 7%, while Trump loses against her by 6%. Hard to respect a party so bent on biting off its own nose.
Let them nominate Trump. Or let them have a brokered convention. Either way, they lose.
This is no normal year. You cannot go by the stats of the winners past. The history shows if either party suffer's buyer's remorse with the leader or nominee, even with no brokered convention, if enough division, which is what we see now, happens, that party ALWAYS has their asses handed to them.
The problem with Trump is that whatever gains he might make in swing voters, he'll lose in his base or worse. And with everything he has said so far, it will be a field day for dems as far as adds. Ted is their best bet, but even then, they'd lose.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 18, 2016 at 5:22 pm
There are people in this thread who are ragging on Ted Cruz for being a liar, which I get and am totally behind. But then they present Trump as an alternative, for reasons that are, to put it mildly, not apparent. They lie in different ways and about different things. It's just that Ted Cruz looks like a pedophile and Trump may actually be one.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 18, 2016 at 5:29 pm
(March 18, 2016 at 5:22 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: There are people in this thread who are ragging on Ted Cruz for being a liar, which I get and am totally behind. But then they present Trump as an alternative, for reasons that are, to put it mildly, not apparent. They lie in different ways and about different things. It's just that Ted Cruz looks like a pedophile and Trump may actually be one.
I don't think either are pedophiles, although it would not shock me if Ted was an in the closet gay. But both are still smarmy.
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RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 18, 2016 at 5:34 pm
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(March 18, 2016 at 5:22 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: There are people in this thread who are ragging on Ted Cruz for being a liar, which I get and am totally behind. But then they present Trump as an alternative, for reasons that are, to put it mildly, not apparent. They lie in different ways and about different things. It's just that Ted Cruz looks like a pedophile and Trump may actually be one.
That maybe entirely possible that Trump is a pedo, In this day and age anyone could be. I've come across a lot of questionable people over the years on the net. I know of a website the exposes pedos, this guy is brilliant he tricks them and finally tells them that they have tricked and posts the entire uncensored conversation online. Maybe Jared and Trump have more in common then people think.
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