"Men are all pigs"

[LadyForCamus]

Right. And pool seems to be stereotyping ALL feminists as ugly, man-hating, privileged lesbians who are terrified of penises, which just...blows my mind because his whole gripe in the first place is that he is sick of his gender being stereotyped as rapist pigs. 'Don't do it me, but I have no problem doing it to you guys, because in your case it's TRUE!'

[Losty]

No that's simply not true. Not in India or any of the rest of the third world.

Also, calling women's rights activists from 50+ years ago a group of women complaining to get more stuff makes you a bit of a Douchenozzle in my most humble opinion.

Western feminist: "It's simple really, women in Iran,Afghanistan and other third world countries are oppressed so give me more free stuff."

Nope doesn't match me at all.

[SofaKingHigh]

[Mermaid]

No that's simply not true. Not in India or any of the rest of the third world.

Also, calling women's rights activists from 50+ years ago a group of women complaining to get more stuff makes you a bit of a Douchenozzle in my most humble opinion.

Western feminist: "It's simple really, women in Iran,Afghanistan and other third world countries are oppressed so give me more free stuff."

You are either not very bright or you aren't paying attention. Or perhaps some from each column.

[FatAndFaithless]

This thread is still going?

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

It's quite simple.
Feminism =/= Women.
Meaning, all women are not feminists. Meaning, my views on feminism doesn't reflect on my views on the female gender as a whole.
Feminists are activist groups that work towards gaining women, like western women, that live in free countries,like America, equal rights.

Meaning you only like women who won't stand up for themselves. I get it.

Me, I like a strong woman who isn't afraid to speak up for herself -- but then, I'm a strong man. I can take it.

Your mileage obviously varies.

As for your commentary about American women, I just want to point out that you just labeled us "free". Have you stopped and asked yourself why we're called that? Might it not be because of movements like the women's movement, or the civil rights movement?

Chew on that a little before you answer.

Meaning you only like women who won't stand up for themselves. I get it.

I like sweet people. I don't like annoying, entitled,hypocritical, dramatic people with victim complex. In the case of women, I like a sweet woman too, I don't like a strong independent ™ women that blogs about how she doesn't need a man in her life, and yap yap yap at my face about how strong and empowered she is. Makes me want to punch a hole in the faces of people like that.
Again, what does my personal preferences have anything to do with my argument?

As for your commentary about American women, I just want to point out that you just labeled us "free". Have you stopped and asked yourself why we're called that? Might it not be because of movements like the women's movement, or the civil rights movement?

Yes. I see what you mean. I agree that you are free because your forefathers fought for freedom. Why aren't you fighting for your freedom right now thump? I know, it's pretty dumb for free people to fight for freedom.
It's also pretty fucking dumb for people with equal rights to fight for equal rights, wouldn't you agree?

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Right. And pool seems to be stereotyping ALL feminists as ugly, man-hating, privileged lesbians who are terrified of penises, which just...blows my mind because his whole gripe in the first place is that he is sick of his gender being stereotyped as rapist pigs. 'Don't do it me, but I have no problem doing it to you guys, because in your case it's TRUE!'

Do you know why I stereotype feminists like that? It's because I hate them with a passion.

Do you know why feminists stereotype men like that? It's because they hate men with a passion.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Pool simply thinks that the fight is over, I guess.

There is no fight. Nobody is fighting you. Nobody is trying to oppress you. You are free to do what you want. You have equal rights like everybody else. These.are.facts.

[J a c k]

I don't need a man in my life. (Pool is getting ready to punch a hole in my face) I'm a strong woman. I don't blog about it, but I live it. That I don't need a man doesn't mean I hate men. I certainly don't hate penis. I'm independent. I think it would make a man (a strong man) happy to share the world with me instead of protecting me from it. I don't think all men are pigs, except for some. Some men (even here on AF) are papis and also awesome. I'm not lesbian. Some women can also be pigs. Some are not, though. Some are amazing! And beautiful. And... Ok, you get the point. Why cookie cut things? Staaaap. Enjoy. 

And I don't hate you, pool. I sometimes mistakenly erroneously judge a Christian based on past experiences. I check myself, though. They may irritate me, but I live with them and never punch them the way I imagine in my mind. : I think you don't punch either.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I like sweet people. I don't like annoying, entitled,hypocritical, dramatic people with victim complex. In the case of women, I like a sweet woman too, I don't like a strong independent ™ women that blogs about how she doesn't need a man in her life, and yap yap yap at my face about how strong and empowered she is. Makes me want to punch a hole in the faces of people like that.  

Charming.

Me, I don't want a woman who needs me. I want a woman who wants me. "Need" is a pretty shitty metric for love.

Again, what does my personal preferences have anything to do with my argument?

Is your personality so fractured that your preferences don't inform your social views? Really?

Yes. I see what you mean. I agree that you are free because your forefathers fought for freedom. Why aren't you fighting for your freedom right now thump? I know, it's pretty dumb for free people to fight for freedom.

Firstly, I'm an Air Force veteran. I've already put my ass on the line for our freedoms, thankyouverymuch.

Secondly, who's to say I'm not active in standing up for our freedoms as a civilian? You know fuck-all about how I live my life.

It's also pretty fucking dumb for people with equal rights to fight for equal rights, wouldn't you agree?

When those equal rights are de jure but not de facto, no, it's not.