UK Brexit, questions from an American

[abaris]

Well, they're at extreme ends of the spectrum. There's no kind of compromise, it's just all in or all out.

Yeah, rob, but life's tough. If you join a club, you have to subscribe to the rules. All of them, not just the cherries on top.

Even though my country is a relative newcomer with joining in 1995, I was against the rapid expansion of the EU. Not because I hated the countries joining, but because I found it to be a better strategy to determine where the EU's going before inviting any more members to join. In 2004, when the last big expansion happened, it was glaringly obvious that the Eastern European countries weren't really interested in a political and social Union. They just wanted to pick the economical cherries while leaning heavily on the Bush administration for everything else.

Suffice to say, when we were called to vote on joining the EU, I didn't vote for the EU in it's current form. I voted for a social and political Union, since I consider myself an European. A neocon economical experiment would have never got my vote. But now that we're part of that union, I'm also aware that leaving would make us even more vulnerable to outside influences and economical drawbacks. So I would vote remain at any given day, although I don't subscribe to the EU in it's current form.

[Tiberius]

If I opt for the tea do I have to drink it?

We can throw it in Boston harbor if you like?

[Minimalist]

What a capital idea!  Tally-ho!

[LastPoet]

I find it very peculiar how alike the extreme right and extreme left get. Sometimes I would like to see the brexit win so that they could come groveling to return once the place turned into a shithole. People sometimes need to make their own mistakes in order to learn something from them.

But then, alot of good people would be affected by this, people that do not deserve it. Sometimes one just have to think for themselves and not fall into nationalistic propaganda.

[emjay]

I'm just worried that minority right wing parties who usually don't get much representation because of our first past the post voting system, will send their supporters out en masse to vote leave. Because on the remain side there are no parties whose sole purpose is to stay... not in the same way anyway. So I'm worried that we might find out just how big those minority groups really are... that they may be more organised than us

[account_inactive]

Well, that's the polls closed. Looking forward to seeing the results.

[emjay]

Yep, it's gonna be a tense and exciting night ahead, watching the count come in.

[Minimalist]

People sometimes need to make their own mistakes in order to learn something from them.

But that happens so seldom.




Except Cicero never said any such thing showing that when someone feels like it they invent "history" to suit their purpose.

[account_inactive]

Yep, it's gonna be a tense and exciting night ahead, watching the count come in.

Indeed.

[account_inactive]

The majority in Gibraltar voted to remain. 381 of 382 local authorities still to declare.