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Your lack of imagination is your defeat
RE: Your lack of imagination is your defeat
(July 5, 2016 at 5:25 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(July 5, 2016 at 9:27 am)Little Rik Wrote: 3) water and air are not matter.
That is not how evolution works.
Every single element exist in a different stage of evolution.
Matter is matter air is air and water is water.

You've twisted your brain into pretzel with this Ananda Marga shit. You've taken your brain and broken it.  You can take two kinds of air, hydrogen and oxygen, and create water out of them.  Water is a combination of various gases.  Your assertion that the two are different is a failure.

You can then take the water and freeze it to make ice which is really hard and most definitely matter. Naturally occurring ice is considered a mineral. Glacier ice is considered a rock. I don't know anyone who would argue that minerals and rocks aren't counted as matter.
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RE: Your lack of imagination is your defeat
(July 5, 2016 at 5:23 pm)Alex K Wrote:
Little Rik Wrote:3) water and air are not matter.
That is not how evolution works.
Every single element exist in a different stage of evolution.
Matter is matter air is air and water is water.

Wow. You can't be serious.

LOL... What exactly about that statement do you perceive as inconsistent with the incoherent gibberish Little Rik has been spewing up to this point?  Smile
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Your lack of imagination is your defeat
(July 6, 2016 at 4:57 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(July 5, 2016 at 5:25 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You've twisted your brain into pretzel with this Ananda Marga shit. You've taken your brain and broken it.  You can take two kinds of air, hydrogen and oxygen, and create water out of them.  Water is a combination of various gases.  Your assertion that the two are different is a failure.

You can then take the water and freeze it to make ice which is really hard and most definitely matter. Naturally occurring ice is considered a mineral. Glacier ice is considered a rock. I don't know anyone who would argue that minerals and rocks aren't counted as matter.
bold mine

I'll give you one guess as to who would.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
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RE: Your lack of imagination is your defeat
(July 6, 2016 at 5:03 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:
(July 5, 2016 at 5:23 pm)Alex K Wrote: Wow. You can't be serious.

LOL... What exactly about that statement do you perceive as inconsistent with the incoherent gibberish Little Rik has been spewing up to this point?  Smile

Quote:Matter is matter air is air
Black is Black, I want my baby back!

Dang, what's the song!?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Your lack of imagination is your defeat
(July 6, 2016 at 6:36 am)ignoramus Wrote:
(July 6, 2016 at 5:03 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: LOL... What exactly about that statement do you perceive as inconsistent with the incoherent gibberish Little Rik has been spewing up to this point?  Smile

Quote:Matter is matter air is air
Black is Black, I want my baby back!

Dang, what's the song!?

No, no and no! You are not gonna do that to me. Beccs already put one earworm in my head.

Don't make me make you pick a switch off a tree, mister.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
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RE: Your lack of imagination is your defeat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkwmSzPdVnY

You seriously have to watch the video - it's priceless  Big Grin
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RE: Your lack of imagination is your defeat
(July 5, 2016 at 10:52 am)Crossless1 Wrote:
(July 5, 2016 at 10:41 am)Little Rik Wrote: That guy in question doesn't get it.  Banging Head On Desk

Once again he follow the same demented view that evolution is only related to"a process that results in heritable changes in a population spread over many generations"
He doesn't get the fact that evolution is individual and if he sees as a process that results in heritable changes in a population spread over many generations"it is because a group of creature
fit in a particular jigsaw puzzle.
Nothing to do therefore with a collective group marching together hand in hand.
Same stale garbage Roberto.  Wink

No, dumbass, biological evolution is about heritable changes in populations -- it is not about individuals. Epic fail, as usual with you. I can't say I'm surprised though.


Imbecile.  Hi

Put it in this way.
50 years ago people watched black&white tv.
Today they watch color tv.
This is a change in people culture so to speak.
We got a myriad of similar changes.
People change their way to do thing so in a way it is a biological evolution but wait a minute Cross.
Do these changes really lead to a progress in conscious evolution?
Of course they don't that is why the word evolution should only be used when a change for the better in
the consciousness occur.
All the rest means absolutely nothing even if some idiots in the past reckon that changes in people culture means progress.  Banging Head On Desk
The same goes for changes in technologies.
They are just changes which do not necessary mean progress.
Today we have the fridge to keep food longer.
In the past they didn't but the food taste good and was devoid of chemicals and preservative.
So there is a change for the better and one for the worse.
In other words there is no progress and evolution means nothing.
Evolution can only be within but this is an argument too difficult to understand
for dreamer like you. Banghead
Have a good day anyway.  Rolleyes
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RE: Your lack of imagination is your defeat
(July 5, 2016 at 11:40 am)Spirian Wrote: Imagination play - I'm in.

Let's say the universe contains those elements and components found resident within humans, including mind consciousness, and for the purpose of this exercise, let's say that mind consciousness continues after death (an afterlife). 

So here's my question if that's true...

Is the universe's mind consciousness "god" or is it the collective of all of the other mind consciousnesses contained within that space, and in either case, is it not possible for humans to be this "god" in fractal form, waiting to coalesce once more upon physical death?
Thinking


According to yoga nothing is external.
Everything is within God mind.
Universe included.
Everything is therefore made up of consciousness.
A game (lila) take place.
Part of God consciousness get transformed into space, air, energy-light, water and matter.
This process imply that part of his consciousness get less and less sharp and powerful.
The matter which is the last stage of this process is therefore in a stage of non awareness.
Here from the matter the evolution start.
Matter evolve into vegetation into animal life into human and back into the ocean of God consciousness.
Everything is God but to understand that you are God you need to evolve your consciousness.
That is what yoga is all about.   Lightbulb
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RE: Your lack of imagination is your defeat
(July 6, 2016 at 8:27 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 5, 2016 at 10:52 am)Crossless1 Wrote: No, dumbass, biological evolution is about heritable changes in populations -- it is not about individuals. Epic fail, as usual with you. I can't say I'm surprised though.


Imbecile.  Hi

Put it in this way.
50 years ago people watched black&white tv.
Today they watch color tv.
This is a change in people culture so to speak.
We got a myriad of similar changes.
People change their way to do thing so in a way it is a biological evolution but wait a minute Cross.
Do these changes really lead to a progress in conscious evolution?
Of course they don't that is why the word evolution should only be used when a change for the better in
the consciousness occur.
All the rest means absolutely nothing even if some idiots in the past reckon that changes in people culture means progress.  Banging Head On Desk
The same goes for changes in technologies.
They are just changes which do not necessary mean progress.
Today we have the fridge to keep food longer.
In the past they didn't but the food taste good and was devoid of chemicals and preservative.
So there is a change for the better and one for the worse.
In other words there is no progress and evolution means nothing.
Evolution can only be within but this is an argument too difficult to understand
for dreamer like you.  Banghead
Have a good day anyway.  Rolleyes

You can't know if food tasted better in the past. I'm pretty sure about that.

The quality change in television is about technology, not so much about culture, so that's worded badly.

Evolution can mean both progress and what you mean by it. That's what's so wonderful about language, it doesn't need to be fixed and rigid, or our thinking wouldn't evolve.

Just because there are some side-effects to technological progress, doesn't mean that life was better in the past, when there was less of that going on. In fact, life was much more miserable in the past, people died of various diseases that aren't as much of or at all a threat today. They lived much less, on average, and most of them led awful lives, in a kind of Sysiphean struggle to get by.

As for all that jazz about consciousness, right on, buddy! That's great, but you shouldn't infer wrong things about external reality from your internal experience, however great and insightful it might appear to be.
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RE: Your lack of imagination is your defeat
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Yoga Bear...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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