Lucifer

[Neo-Scholastic]

As Hitchens said, "created sick and then ordered to be well". It's no surprise that the institution that tells us how broken we are also just happens to have the cure.

Statements such as that merely show that Hitchens was in the habit of presenting interpretations of Christian doctrine unfamiliar to any Christian.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I'm not sure what the endgame here is, convince us that god is a murderous psychopath, that christians are superstitious dolts, or that you're a compulsive liar for christ?

Obviously, I'm going to have fun with this either way...but.......

All for the lulz

[Cyberman]

As Hitchens said, "created sick and then ordered to be well". It's no surprise that the institution that tells us how broken we are also just happens to have the cure.

Statements such as that merely show that Hitchens was in the habit of presenting interpretations of Christian doctrine unfamiliar to any Christian.

Are you going to present an alternative interpretation based on your last few comments, or simply dismiss this one and give the impression that you had? Is it your contention that your religion doesn't offer up the 'cure' for a condition unfamiliar to anyone outside it?

[The Grand Nudger]

Statements such as that merely show that Hitchens was in the habit of presenting interpretations of Christian doctrine unfamiliar to any Christian.

It's called an outsiders perspective.  Generally thought of as a valuable tool. It's unsurprising to see you take issue.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Statements such as that merely show that Hitchens was in the habit of presenting interpretations of Christian doctrine unfamiliar to any Christian.

Are you going to present an alternative interpretation based on your last few comments, or simply dismiss this one and give the impression that you had? Is it your contention that your religion doesn't offer up the 'cure' for a condition unfamiliar to anyone outside it?

The original parents were created in innocence not sickness. Sinfulness is a self-inflicted condition. Beyond that Christians do debate the implications of general corruption for personal accountability.

Hitchens quip ignores important distinctions and coniderations within doctrines of salvation such as whether or not accountability starts at the age of reason. I do think Hichens's quip could implicitly apply to the Calvinist doctrine of total depravity but ever there his use of the word "created" puts him outside even that doctrine.

[abaris]

Statements such as that merely show that Hitchens was in the habit of presenting interpretations of Christian doctrine unfamiliar to any Christian.

Not to any christian, as I am sure you notice. Many have the doctrine of being born in sin and come up with a whole catalogue of no gos. Most of them something a normal being can't possibly avoid without getting neurotic in the process. Such as having sex.

Hitchens oversimplifies, but ultimately the churches are the ones promising to have the one and only cure for simply being human.

[Cyberman]

I'll grant you that Hitchens probably over-egged his remark, yet the point remains that the doctrine creates a problem and then offers the cure. 'Sinfulness' isn't a thing beyond the confines of the religion that spawned it. If I don't subscribe to the god against which 'sin' is a crime, how can I possibly require atonement for it? Real-world example: blasphemy in the UK is no longer recognised as a crime. A comment made the day prior to the law being abolished would incur a penalty; the same comment a day later would not. The comment remains the same - all that changed was the recognition of offense. Remove the recognition, remove the offense.

Remove "God", eliminate "sin". Problem solved, and not a shot fired.

[Godscreated]

 God , the Bible and the church are all interconnected. It really seems you are quite ignorant of Christianity, so much so you shouldn't even have an opinion on ant of it. 

GC

Judging on what I have heard from you so far your make up your faith as you go along ......

 Because you can't coherently understand the simplet parts of Christianity.

GC

[Minimalist]

Your claim that these people suffered a gods wrath is neither supportable nor is it falsifiable. It is easily dismissed as nonsense.

You'd better listen to GC and start believing his story as quickly as you can - or else he'll sic his pet god on you and apparently it kills people he doesn't like.

Really?  What does it do?  Bore them to death?

[Godscreated]

 Believe what you want to, I placed the truth before you and if you find it nonsense ... well the lasting result of that is on you.

GC

GC's Christianity: Where small-minded resentment and schadenfreude join hands before the wishing well.

If you continue down this same path according to the Bible you will wish you had a wishing well at judgement.

GC