Book of Contradictions: A Challenge

[Cinjin]

@Watson:

Seriously, these are all your posts in this thread. You’re typing words but you’re saying nothing. Are you just here just to be Frodo’s “yes man” ????

Boy should this be interesting...not. Post #4

I have never in my reading the Bible encountered something which to me seemed to contradict anything else...if that's the stupid answer you're looking for, I mean. Post #15

Min, I seriously wonder how people put up with a cranky old guy like yourself in real life. Post #17

Just stop talking man … shit, I’m embarrassed FOR you. goddamn

[Watson]

haha Don't be embarrassed for me, it's not your job bud.

[Cinjin]

Fail. That second verse doesn't say that He does not rest, it merely says that He does not tire. The first verse says that He rested, not that He tired.

LMAO ... what was I thinking ... "I'm not tired - I'm going to go rest". Yeah, that makes sense.

you tool! Go play in the kiddies pool - it's adult swim time ok little man.

[Rev. Rye]

Rye, I'm well aware of the numerous amount of contradictions... thats what made the challenge Frodo gave me so funny. As for your take on in-group and out-group ... it's laughable. You're basically saying that your god can have his people do monstrous acts to those who are not "part of his flock" as long as they treat eachother ok.

Gimme a goddamn break!!

Wait, where the hell did you get the idea that I believed in God? Just because I pointed out that you gave a bad example of a contradiction doesn't mean I believe. And, incidentally, with the in-group, out-group thing, I'm not justifying shit. I'm just explaining what happened in that time, and, to a lesser extent, even now.
We are the compartmentalising animal, and the Israelites are no exception.

[Watson]

Fail. That second verse doesn't say that He does not rest, it merely says that He does not tire. The first verse says that He rested, not that He tired.

LMAO ... what was I thinking ... "I'm not tired - I'm going to go rest". Yeah, that makes sense.

you tool! Go play in the kiddies pool - it's adult swim time ok little man.

What? You've never laid down and taken a nap just because you felt like you had no work to do? Man, you're really missing out.

[Cinjin]

Rye, I'm well aware of the numerous amount of contradictions... thats what made the challenge Frodo gave me so funny. As for your take on in-group and out-group ... it's laughable. You're basically saying that your god can have his people do monstrous acts to those who are not "part of his flock" as long as they treat eachother ok.

Gimme a goddamn break!!

Wait, where the hell did you get the idea that I believed in God? Just because I pointed out that you gave a bad example of a contradiction doesn't mean I believe. And, incidentally, with the in-group, out-group thing, I'm not justifying shit. I'm just explaining what happened in that time, and, to a lesser extent, even now.
We are the compartmentalising animal, and the Israelites are no exception.

I think it's ok to rape your sister ... but it would be completely wrong to rape my own. Tell me biblical scholar, how is that not a contradiction? Especially if you go around telling people that I am a just, righteous, and fair person at all times. It's a contradiction - and I've got a shit ton more of them.

(sorry about the oversight on your religious beliefs ... I saw the word preacher)

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What? You've never laid down and taken a nap just because you felt like you had no work to do? Man, you're really missing out.

You are a rediculous little ding dong aren't you. Go find a sandbox to play in. If you're going to offer me arguments like that you're not going to leave Frodo with anything to use and two....

It doesn't say god was out shooting billiards and having some down time with an angel pal!! It says he rested!!

This is what I'm talking about ... D E L U S I O N A L.

In any other argument a rebuttal like this would be laughed out of the debate. It's just purely greasy semantics. Why do I even bother.

[Watson]

Okay Cinjin, I'm done. You take your victory ball and sit at home, I'm not particularly in the mood for philosophical debate tonight.

[Cinjin]

Okay Cinjin, I'm done. You take your victory ball and sit at home, I'm not particularly in the mood for philosophical debate tonight.

how is your babbling about taking naps PHILOSOPHY?!?!?!

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Killing forbidden
Ex 20:13 Thou shalt not kill

Sorry mate,bad example. The actual commandment is "Thou shalt commit no murder"

Unfortunately for apologists, that is not as simple as it seems. Then as now it was not seen as murder to kill an enemy or as capital punishment.

And exactly who was your enemy? Well pretty much everyone who was not a member of your tribe. It is my understanding that in many societies, a 'stranger' was at the very least considered a potential enemy until proven otherwise.That may have been one reason for the development of strict laws of hospitality;they protected the stranger from being casually murdered for his horse or his clothing.

As for capital punishment. Until quite recently, most societies had a long list of capital crime. A few still do..


I'm being pedantic; EACH of the holy books of the Abrahamic faiths is so full vaguaries and contradictions that without exception,every believer is forced to cherry pick the emphasis of his personal faith. Invariably that emphasis reflects the individual's needs,character,times and culture. Hence we have Fred Phelps and Mother Theresa, suicide bombers and sufi mystics.

In my opinion, the complexity and contradictions contained in all holy book is a powerful argument for them having been written by men for men. Surely, if as claimed,they were the revealed truth of a deity, they would be simple and easily understood by anyone who read or even heard them. There would be no need for priests or any organised institutions.

The claim that any god needs a specialist intermediary/interpreter between him/her and worshipers is I think one of the greatest confidence tricks ever perpetrated on the human race.

[Cinjin]

Killing forbidden
Ex 20:13 Thou shalt not kill

Sorry mate,bad example. The actual commandment is "Thou shalt commit no murder"

Unfortunately for apologists, that is not as simple as it seems. Then as now it was not seen as murder to kill an enemy or as capital punishment.

And exactly who was your enemy? Well pretty much everyone who was not a member of your tribe. It is my understanding that in many societies, a 'stranger' was at the very least considered a potential enemy until proven otherwise.That may have been one reason for the development of strict laws of hospitality;they protected the stranger from being casually murdered for his horse or his clothing.
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Actually, all five of the examples I gave were some of the weakest I could find. It's no fun if nobody responds. Even with this one however, I had arguments ready to go. One of which is the knowledge of doctrines, which you mentioned, but I'll let it go since I chose option 2 for Frodo.