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		September 24, 2015 at 2:42 pm 
		
	 
	
		Same shit - different asshole.
	
	
	
        
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		RE: Greetings,I commence open challenge to anyone 
		September 24, 2015 at 2:50 pm 
		
	 
	
		 (September 24, 2015 at 2:41 pm)Grehoman Ebenezer Wrote:  I will happily debate any atheist on this forum.
- Cosmological Argument
 
- Argument From Design
 
- Argument From Consciousness
 
- Ontological Argument
 
- Historicity of the Resurrection of Jesus
 
- The accuracy of the bible
 
- Bible archaeology
 
- Proving other religion's false
 
Anyone can come forward,for a challenge against me.
I suggest making an Intro thread. You'll get more takers in this thread if you at least make it seem like you're here to engage with the community.
	
 
	
	
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		RE: Greetings,I commence open challenge to anyone 
		September 24, 2015 at 2:53 pm 
		
	 
	
		As far as argument from design goes, I've heard that people say the universe must be created because everything is so complex. Except that when somethign is designed intelligently, it's generally as simple and efficient as possible. In fact many inventions are just more simple and efficient versions of things we already use. So why would complexity be an indication of intelligent design?
	
	
	
        
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Why don't you elaborate on your views? I don't wanna bother with a debate if there are no new arguments on the table
	
	
	
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		RE: Greetings,I commence open challenge to anyone 
		September 24, 2015 at 2:53 pm 
		
	 
	
		Holy shit, did the pope tell everyone to come to AF or something?  
Hopefully you're not one of those suck-the-fun-out-of-everthing Catholics.
	
	
	
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		September 24, 2015 at 2:57 pm 
		
	 
	
		Also with the cosmological argument, even if we both agreed there needs to be a divine creator, there's still a chasm between "divine creator" and "Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life". I don't know what the point of arguing that even is.
	
	
	
        
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		September 24, 2015 at 3:05 pm 
		
	 
	
		 (September 24, 2015 at 2:57 pm)Grehoman Ebenezer Wrote:  Pope Francis Calls All Catholics to Evangelize -news magazine 
BREAKING NEWS: Atheists Think Catholicism Is Silly And Are Only Turned Off By Envangelizing Catholics - AF
You should let Franky know.
	
 
	
	
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		RE: Greetings,I commence open challenge to anyone 
		September 24, 2015 at 3:06 pm 
		
	 
	
		Is it too late to shout sock or poe?
	
	
	
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