Why is ISIS Worse than the 1948 Israeli State?

[Minimalist]

What's this got to do with the Israeli government?

Because of the intricacies of right-wing politics the ultra-orthodox have strong supporters in the government.  The need to form coalitions of all the right-wing slobs give these religious parties an out-sized voice in Israeli politics.

I'm hard pressed to find much of a difference between the ultra orthodox and the nuttier jihadists.

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[abaris]

I'm hard pressed to find much of a difference between the ultra orthodox and the nuttier jihadists.

There is none. And they're part of the government coalition in Israel, holding the whole country hostage.

[Anomalocaris]

Uh, no.  Saudi Arabia is not an Isis that made it.  Saudi Arabia regime and the society may be guilty of extreme, anachronistical conservatism.  But it is deeply rooted in the culture over which it rules and with which more or less coevolved over centuries.

So? Suddenly it's respectable?

I don't give a semblance of a fuck how Saudi Arabia came to be. It's a backwards shithole, and it can willingly move into the 21st century or get dragged into it kicking and screaming.

The existence of a state that had grown organically over long period and as a result is generally accommodated and accommodatable economically, socially, and diplomatically is not a crisis. The existence of a entity that suddenly appears and create great disruption economically, socially and diplomatically is a crisis.

Saudi arabia's conservatism Is not in itself an acute crisis. So it is more respectable. ISIS is a malcontent causing an acute crisis. So it is less respectable.

[Minimalist]

Saudi Arabia chops off more heads than ISIS.

[The Grand Nudger]

-ah, but they do so in a stately manner. We toss more people in the gulags than the commies, it's all in how you go about it.

[Anomalocaris]

Saudi Arabia chops off more heads than ISIS.

England, in fact each of major European countries, probably chopped off way more heads in total than ever did Saudi Arabia.  The point is the rate of head chopping in England and Europe is now close to zero, while those in Saudi Arabia might be quite non-zero, but is almost certainly way lower than in ISIS.

[Anomalocaris]

-ah, but they do so in a stately manner.  We toss more people in the gulags than the commies, it's all in how you go about it.

They still execute way more people than we do. Texas certainly has no right to brag.