ISIS is the Sauds. The Sauds own ISIS. It's America's cold war gift.

[WinterHold]

Ofc they take us as military advisors...we're better at it than they are.  What's the problem...do muslims like to lose?  I hope, on the basis of that..especially, that no one is niave enough to think that we (as in the US) are -buddies- with the regime.  We have an interest in them, a stake even..you might say.  That's not friendship, that's business.  Whatever regime we propped up in that region would be beholden to that interest, the signs change.....the product and the customer do not.

The thread's title is:
"ISIS is the Sauds. The Sauds own ISIS. It's America's cold war gift."
How the hell did the Sauds became all of Muslims, or perhaps you love generalization to that degree..mmm I wonder.
No Rhythm, I speak about THE SAUDS, not about MUSLIMS. 

Regarldess of what you think my purpose was, I find it amusing that you can;t even accept a reality in which american soldiers help anyone - regardless of what their betters may be up to. You have to cheapen that...those lives, and the lives of the people who were given assistance when the umma failed to do so, or in the more common cases..when it was the umma itself shitting on them. I know, I know..death to america, down with the great satan...all the worlds ills and whatnot. You, and people like you..are a joke...things will never get better for you, or people like you, until you all learn to stop putting stock in this -and other- fairy tales. Has it never occurred to you that the very act of blaming your every woe on the nebulous west is precisely what has allowed your -own- cultures power brokers to sell you out -to- us, whomever we are supposed to be?

Never did I say that the "establishment" loves or helps anyone without having an interest in mind.
When the devil offers help, he doesn't do it for the sake of rainbows and hearts 
That's Secularism n a nutshell for you 
It's a hierarchy:
The eye: it watches us
-------------------------------
the politicians:they serve the eye, because it brings them gold and money
-------------------------------
soldiersome want to study for college, some over--played call of duty, some truly believed the propaganda of the eye, some others are just plain evil and joined to tortutr and kill
Actually, plus, you are the real joke. You actually went to the Middle East thinking that you're "making a difference" XD lol

Bust down a door yourself to yank a crying child out of the hands of islamist assholes....islamists bitch about it. Train -other- islamists to bust down a door and yank a crying child out of the hands of -yet more- islamist assholes......islamists bitch about it. It's almost as if it's the yanking of children out of the hands of islamists assholes that they'll just never be happy about it, no matter who does it, where, when, or why.

American soldiers -the ignorant ones only- are the biggest victims I ever saw in my life; actually a large portion of them rebelled and that's the main reason the EYE began to use proxies like ISIS. Islamists -who served the eye well- are fighting the war the former : American soldiers are no more; don't try to convince me that the U.S army can handle a new war in the Middle East.
The U.s army lacks endurance, will power and cause. All combined. It's not 1945 xD It's people like you, who never  believed their comrades:



A real hero of war

One day, when your own home grown islamists, for which you are a tireless cheerleader, turn on you (and I think that you and I both know why they might do that)...hopefully, someones going to be there to yank -you- out of -their- hands....and have fun spitting in their faces for it, I guess. 

Just drop a letter from the white house's wall, asking politicians to stop arming them

[Minimalist]

There is no god but Allah .


Fixed that for you.

[The Grand Nudger]

The thread's title is:
"ISIS is the Sauds. The Sauds own ISIS. It's America's cold war gift."
How the hell did the Sauds became all of Muslims, or perhaps you love generalization to that degree..mmm I wonder.
No Rhythm, I speak about THE SAUDS, not about MUSLIMS. 

Let's not pretend you didn't speak about the muslims™ and how some of them think that simply befriending infidels is haram.  I could quote you...but I shouldn't have to.  From that remark and in this context I can only conclude that muslims would rather lose with other muslims than seek advice from winners who aren't muslims.  Sorry for your luck..if that's the case.  

Never did I say that the "establishment" loves or helps anyone without having an interest in mind.
When the devil offers help, he doesn't do it for the sake of rainbows and hearts 
That's Secularism n a nutshell for you 
It's a hierarchy:
The eye: it watches us
-------------------------------
the politicians:they serve the eye, because it brings them gold and money
-------------------------------
soldiersome want to study for college, some over--played call of duty, some truly believed the propaganda of the eye, some others are just plain evil and joined to tortutr and kill
Actually, plus, you are the real joke. You actually went to the Middle East thinking that you're "making a difference" XD lol

I joined before the middle east shitshow, before 9/11, numbskull.  I went off to make a difference, and did make a difference.  Again, that you can't accept a reality in which people like me exist..despite my being..you know..right here talking to you about it...exposes your compulsion to grind an ideological axe regardless of any actual truth of the matter in question.  That you think that secularism has something to do with devils further demonstrates your inability to form a cogent thought.  

American soldiers -the ignorant ones only- are the biggest victims I ever saw in my life; actually a large portion of them rebelled and that's the main reason the EYE began to use proxies like ISIS. Islamists -who served the eye well- are fighting the war the former : American soldiers are no more; don't try to convince me that the U.S army can handle a new war in the Middle East.
The U.s army lacks endurance, will power and cause. All combined. It's not 1945 xD It's people like you, who never  believed their comrades:

What eye, nutter?  Are we just discussing your fantasies at this point...because it seems like it.

Just drop a letter from the white house's wall, asking politicians to stop arming them

Why, so that your islamist buddies have a blank check to continue doing shitty things?  Why lay the shittiness of every islamist group in question at the foot of the white house....are we somehow the reason that none of you can be trusted to be anything other than grade a dicks to each other? I'll just repeat my previous statements. I hope that someone yanks your silly ass out of the arms of islamism when it, predictably, turns on you....have fun spitting in their faces for it, blaming them for all of your woes, and wishing for a god to solve the problems that you've created. It won't matter to those people, ofc, they'll help you anyway.

[ReptilianPeon]

ISIS is not the property of Bush or Obama or even Clinton, ISIS is the private army of the U.S and Israel. They use it to deliever slaps to whomever they want in the region, when the Houthies in Yemen began to kick Saudi ass, ISIS jumped to the rescue and ironically began to fight the enemies of the Sauds.

Obama also likes the PKK abd YPG so that's confusing. Seems like they have an addiction creating enemies to sell weapons to people. Julian Assange says Wikileaks has proof Hilary supported al-Saud's Henchmen in Iraq and Syria, so that should be fun when it comes out. October Surprise maybe?

Maybe there is a blessing in the destruction though. Hopefully al-Saud's Henchmen will speed up the extinction of this Cult of Najd (a good metaphor for Wahaabi-Salafis maybe?) because we know the Arab youth are pretty secular and tolerant. People see the destruction and they will see the dangers of the teachings of Abdul Wahaab. Saudi is spending so much on way right now and the oil price is down so that means less money for Fascist Imams and Dawah pyramid schemes.

This was a fun video to watch:
Even the Wahaabi-Salafis don't know what the word Salafi means. Yusuf Estes thinks it means "(righteous) dead people" (when it actually refers to the first three generations after Muhammad). That's how full of poop they are. All they're good at is muttering Tasbih all day long. Not useful to society at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeN_hCqddhs

EDIT:
Towards the end, Estes praises Abdul Wahaab as being a good person. This level of stupidity can't survive for that much longer, surely? Today people can just check on Wikpedia or something to see if you're wrong. Even if you don't have a PC, hundreds of millions of people, even in the poorest countries, have mobile phones they view websites on. It doesn't take much to see if you so-called Sheikh (Yusuf Estes is supposed to be a Sheikh) or Imam is lying to you.

[Minimalist]

And people wonder why I can't stand muslims?

[WinterHold]

In 2019:

CNN:

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2019...t-us-arms/

Hodeidah, Yemen (CNN) – Saudi Arabia and its coalition partners have transferred American-made weapons to al Qaeda-linked fighters, hardline Salafi militias, and other factions waging war in Yemen, in violation of their agreements with the United States, a CNN investigation has found.

The weapons have also made their way into the hands of Iranian-backed rebels battling the coalition for control of the country, exposing some of America's sensitive military technology to Tehran and potentially endangering the lives of US troops in other conflict zones.

Do you believe it now?

The Sauds are ISIS in green, I told you in the OP in 2016, thousands of others are saying so to you since the 80s and the 90s. Please act, they will eat us first and stab you in the back next.

---

More from CNN:

Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, its main partner in the war, have used the US-manufactured weapons as a form of currency to buy the loyalties of militias or tribes, bolster chosen armed actors, and influence the complex political landscape, according to local commanders on the ground and analysts who spoke to CNN.