Is there another motivation for christian belief?

[brewer]

I kinda feel like Lardass.

[Athene]

So I asked God to help, and I sat there for a min, and look at the 4 cams and I literally saw the cams slowly move (not hooked up to anything) The first one move something like 3 clicks/teeth clock wise, the second 1 tooth counter the next 5 clicks counter and the next 2 clock wise. then I saw them move back to where the cams were orginally position. So I quickly wrote all of this down as It take some effort to move these cams. So I positioned them as I saw and retensioned the belt...


... I know this story is dismissable to anyone with the will to do so. But, if you have ever had the desire to ever know the truth. Imagine experiencing something like this for yourself. 

Interesting.

I would've blamed these assholes, and tried to fight the future:

[Mister Agenda]

There, fixed that for you, Drich.

Your either confused as to the definition of unfalsfiable, or confused to the nature of the items being proven false in the statement.

When the same excuse works for explaining why praying to a teddy bear doesn't yield results, it's a good example o something that's unfalsifiable. Pray for the bear to cure your cold and it didn't cure your cold? Hey, you requested a cure from the bear, it's just that the answer was 'no'. It's set up so that no matter what happens, the power of the bear can't be disproven. And you've taken the same approach with God.

[Crossless2.0]

Your either confused as to the definition of unfalsfiable, or confused to the nature of the items being proven false in the statement.

When the same excuse works for explaining why praying to a teddy bear doesn't yield results, it's a good example o something that's unfalsifiable. Pray for the bear to cure your cold and it didn't cure your cold? Hey, you requested a cure from the bear, it's just that the answer was 'no'. It's set up so that no matter what happens, the power of the bear can't be disproven. And you've taken the same approach with God.

Pull up, Mister Agenda . . . pull up! Stay away from the Death Star!

[RobertE]

Well, I am back. I just have one question. Who the fuck is Drich, and if he is a religious nut, then I thank my lucky stars I am not like him. I can be a pain in the ass at times, I know that. However, how do you put up with such moronic and condescending behaviour? Fuck, if I was an admin, I'd ban his ass all day.

[Crossless2.0]

Well, I am back. I just have one question. Who the fuck is Drich, and if he is a religious nut, then I thank my lucky stars I am not like him. I can be a pain in the ass at times, I know that. However, how do you put up with such moronic and condescending behaviour? Fuck, if I was an admin, I'd ban his ass all day.

Drich never crosses the line. There's no reason to ban him.

[RobertE]

Well, I am back. I just have one question. Who the fuck is Drich, and if he is a religious nut, then I thank my lucky stars I am not like him. I can be a pain in the ass at times, I know that. However, how do you put up with such moronic and condescending behaviour? Fuck, if I was an admin, I'd ban his ass all day.

Drich never crosses the line. There's no reason to ban him.

That is all I needed to know.

[Drich]

Your either confused as to the definition of unfalsfiable, or confused to the nature of the items being proven false in the statement.

When the same excuse works for explaining why praying to a teddy bear doesn't yield results, it's a good example o something that's unfalsifiable. Pray for the bear to cure your cold and it didn't cure your cold? Hey, you requested a cure from the bear, it's just that the answer was 'no'. It's set up so that no matter what happens, the power of the bear can't be disproven. And you've taken the same approach with God.

Again, PRAYING ALWAYS YIELDS POSITIVE RESULTS!!!

What I've pointed out that what we think of praying is not always prayer.

Jesus Narrowly defined Prayer. If you are not praying with the Outline Jesus defins then what you are doing is not praying to the God of the Bible, but praying to your own construct that you may or may not believe is the God of the Bible.

Most people think prayer is a formal wishing ceremony which it is not.

The "wishing ceremony" is identified as Petitioning God. "Dear God i want _________ For all these good reasons... Jesus Name I pray Amen." that is a petition not a prayer.

Prayer is about having God work with you directly so you may see, hear and experience Him. It is about changing ourselves to fit his desires, not a way for us to change His mind. "Dear God use my pain or my short commings so that I may see you, Hear you, and have you work in my life. Jesus Name I pray Amen. That would be content found in a prayer. Not Lord take away my issue, but Lord use my issue, If this is my lot help me accept it. Change my will and allow me to adopt your will. That is at the heart of Prayer.

That is why I said Prayer always works and it is a way to falsify God.

[Catholic_Lady]

 

Likewise, at the end of the day, us religious folks are people of hope.

Of course by that standard, as you point out in the example I quoted, so are a lot of non-believers.  We just don't hope for un-natural mechanisms as explanations for observed phenomena or an ever-ever land afterlife.

Oh I know. I was specifically referring to the religious context when I wrote that line. I meant us religious folks are people of hope in that we hope the our religion is true even though there is no concrete proof.  

But yes, I'm sure every person, or at least most people, have hope for certain things to be true that they can't prove.

[Drich]

Well, I am back. I just have one question. Who the fuck is Drich, and if he is a religious nut, then I thank my lucky stars I am not like him. I can be a pain in the ass at times, I know that. However, how do you put up with such moronic and condescending behaviour? Fuck, if I was an admin, I'd ban his ass all day.

Drich never crosses the line. There's no reason to ban him.

What Bob-E is really asking is why do you all allow a Christian to beat you So badly in a debate? Other atheist sites do not allow this.