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RE: Sort of a complicated question, I'll try to ask. Why was I born me and not another?
October 12, 2016 at 6:19 pm
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You couldn't have been randomly born out of some other woman, or you'd be someone else. Me, maybe. Course, everyone else -was- "randomly born from some other woman" and they, too..are all themselves. So how improbable is it, really, to be born as yourself? Seems like you have a 100% chance to be born as whomever you are.
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RE: Sort of a complicated question, I'll try to ask. Why was I born me and not another?
October 12, 2016 at 6:21 pm
(October 12, 2016 at 6:13 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I'm pretty sure we were all born me. Who else could you have been born as?
I was born as an "I". "Me" arose like a ghost in the machine I accumulated.
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RE: Sort of a complicated question, I'll try to ask. Why was I born me and not another?
October 12, 2016 at 6:24 pm
(October 12, 2016 at 6:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You couldn't have been randomly born out of some other woman, or you'd be someone else. Me, maybe. Course, everyone else -was- "randomly born from some other woman" and they, too..are all themselves. So how improbable is it, really, to be born as yourself? Seems like you have a 100% chance to be born as whomever you are.
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RE: Sort of a complicated question, I'll try to ask. Why was I born me and not another?
October 12, 2016 at 6:26 pm
(October 12, 2016 at 5:30 pm)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote: So, I have been wondering for some time why I was born me and not someone or something else. Doesn't it seem a bit strange, to have come into the consciousness of a body? We just happen to be one animal out of so many species of animal that have existed on this planet. I wonder how it all came to be, how I was born me and not a dog, and why do I feel consciousness when there's trillions of cells in my body that don't have brains of their own. My hands, my feet, they all have living organisms inside of them, and somehow these are a part of me? It's all so strange, I wish that there were some answers to basically explain my existence.
Or hell, there's so many types of matter, I could have just as easily have been a rock.
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Alright, I think I found a better way to state the question. Everything from the start of the universe, all the particles in the known universe come from the big bang, or as carl sagan would say, we're all made of star dust. So if I'm just made of star dust, and the rock around me or the cup on my desk are also made of star dust, then out of all the other matter on earth that came from the same place, why did I just happen to become a human being? All the hamburgers that everyone consumes that become babies that mothers give birth to, that came from the hamburgers that their mothers made. I guess it's sort of comforting in a way, because even if your consciousness is destroyed, even if all your memories are disintegrated, once you decompose you go back to the stuff that made you up in the first place. I just wonder, what was the journey like from me being inanimate material to becoming a living, sentient organism. I think it is an amazingly awesome chain of events from stardust to me (You too!). I also think "How" is a better question than "Why".
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RE: Sort of a complicated question, I'll try to ask. Why was I born me and not another?
October 12, 2016 at 6:27 pm
An interesting question is "who could I currently be" based on different past life choices?
Who can I become based on current and future decisions?
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RE: Sort of a complicated question, I'll try to ask. Why was I born me and not another?
October 12, 2016 at 6:29 pm
(October 12, 2016 at 6:18 pm)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote: (October 12, 2016 at 6:13 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I'm pretty sure we were all born me. Who else could you have been born as? I mean, I could have randomly been born someone else, out of another woman, or I could have been nothing. I really don't know why this question is so hard to just articulate, because the question makes perfect sense to me. We're just particles, there's nothing special about a human being. You guys keep saying that you couldn't have become something else because you came from your mom. I KNOW!!! But did you ever think how they became the people they did? They evolved, yes. I could have also been born a monkey. It's all just random arrangements of particles. Those particles are random, they randomly assemble because of some processes of the universe. I somehow became a human being, not a whale, not a monkey, not a dolphin, not a giant octopus, but a human being. And all that other matter that came from the star dust just became rocks and dust and whatever other living or non living stuff that exists on the planet. So I have to wonder, why do I exist in a conscious body that can observe it's own existence instead of being just a rock??? Like I really don't know how else to describe this, I feel like I'm just restating the same thing in a different way over and over again.
I think you may be over thinking this. "Me" is pretty much just a way of self referencing. Everyone correctly uses it.
But do you really think you're so unique and that that uniqueness arrived with you at birth?
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RE: Sort of a complicated question, I'll try to ask. Why was I born me and not another?
October 12, 2016 at 6:31 pm
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The endless chain of unsatisfying why's. LOL. Perhaps use a proxy subject to see -why- these answers might fail to satisfy despite their accuracy.
Why were you not born to a richer family than your own? How would you explain that? Does it seem improbable to you, what with all the richer families in the world, that you weren't born to one of them?
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RE: Sort of a complicated question, I'll try to ask. Why was I born me and not another?
October 12, 2016 at 6:32 pm
(October 12, 2016 at 6:27 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: An interesting question is "who could I currently be" based on different past life choices?
Who can I become based on current and future decisions?
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RE: Sort of a complicated question, I'll try to ask. Why was I born me and not another?
October 12, 2016 at 6:34 pm
(October 12, 2016 at 6:29 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I think you may be over thinking this. "Me" is pretty much just a way of self referencing. Everyone correctly uses it.
But do you really think you're so unique and that that uniqueness arrived with you at birth? Yet it never refers to the same set of information.
Didn't everyone? 
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RE: Sort of a complicated question, I'll try to ask. Why was I born me and not another?
October 12, 2016 at 6:35 pm
(October 12, 2016 at 6:26 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (October 12, 2016 at 5:30 pm)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote: So, I have been wondering for some time why I was born me and not someone or something else. Doesn't it seem a bit strange, to have come into the consciousness of a body? We just happen to be one animal out of so many species of animal that have existed on this planet. I wonder how it all came to be, how I was born me and not a dog, and why do I feel consciousness when there's trillions of cells in my body that don't have brains of their own. My hands, my feet, they all have living organisms inside of them, and somehow these are a part of me? It's all so strange, I wish that there were some answers to basically explain my existence.
Or hell, there's so many types of matter, I could have just as easily have been a rock.
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Alright, I think I found a better way to state the question. Everything from the start of the universe, all the particles in the known universe come from the big bang, or as carl sagan would say, we're all made of star dust. So if I'm just made of star dust, and the rock around me or the cup on my desk are also made of star dust, then out of all the other matter on earth that came from the same place, why did I just happen to become a human being? All the hamburgers that everyone consumes that become babies that mothers give birth to, that came from the hamburgers that their mothers made. I guess it's sort of comforting in a way, because even if your consciousness is destroyed, even if all your memories are disintegrated, once you decompose you go back to the stuff that made you up in the first place. I just wonder, what was the journey like from me being inanimate material to becoming a living, sentient organism. I think it is an amazingly awesome chain of events from stardust to me (You too!). I also think "How" is a better question than "Why". How and why can be looked at the same way in this case.
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