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Breaking down the "God sees argument"
#51
RE: Breaking down the "God sees argument"
(October 23, 2016 at 6:08 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(October 23, 2016 at 6:03 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: So we are perceiving data from 2 opposite directions: from the outside (objective) and from the inside (subjective). It would seem we exist as a semi-permeable membrane between two regions of information in motion. I would predict that most people identify most strongly with their surface body image, their "skin sack".

I understand the difference between objective and subjective. I asked what the difference between objective existence and existence is.

I would say the difference between the observable universe and the total universe?
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#52
RE: Breaking down the "God sees argument"
No both are objectively existent. All existence is objective... including the reality of subjectivity... which is the one existential, existent and objective reality we can be truly certain of, at least for ourselves.
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#53
RE: Breaking down the "God sees argument"
(October 23, 2016 at 6:17 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(October 23, 2016 at 6:08 pm)chimp3 Wrote: I understand the difference between objective and subjective. I asked what the difference between objective existence and existence is.

I would say the difference between the observable universe and the total universe?

I am glad your answer has a question mark. There is hope for you yet. The correct answer is nothing. There is no difference between objective existence and existence. The word "objective" only serves to embellish an otherwise simple concept with pseudo-philosophical tripe.
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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#54
RE: Breaking down the "God sees argument"
It's like how I said "the one existential existent and objective reality" when I could have just as easily said "the one reality". I was embellishing it for rhetorical purposes.
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#55
RE: Breaking down the "God sees argument"
It's like when you use all these words that imply the same thing and hang together* as if to say "these are all the same things".


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#56
RE: Breaking down the "God sees argument"
I also have some thing in my pants in the not-so-broadest possible sense of the term that hang together in the broadest possible sense of the term.
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#57
RE: Breaking down the "God sees argument"
(October 23, 2016 at 6:45 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I also have some thing in my pants in the not-so-broadest possible sense of the term that hang together in the broadest possible sense of the term.

Pockets? Wink
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#58
RE: Breaking down the "God sees argument"
My lips are sealed.

Wait... wrong biological sex.

My sack is sealed.

FUCK I blew it!
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#59
RE: Breaking down the "God sees argument"
(October 23, 2016 at 6:52 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: My lips are sealed.

Wait... wrong biological sex.

My sack is sealed.

FUCK I blew it!
That must take a lot of flexibility...
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#60
RE: Breaking down the "God sees argument"
Nah... they tend not to be open.

Thank fuck. Don't want a mayo avalanche.
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