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RE: To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?
November 8, 2016 at 4:27 pm
Sorry, I was slightly off. the most recent poll of Hispanic voters I could find was here.
Quote:Donald Trump’s inability to connect with the Hispanic community and anti-illegal immigration rhetoric have put the Manhattan billionaire in a massive hole with Latino voters with just weeks to go until Election Day.
An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll completed last week shows Hillary Clinton with a 50-point lead over Trump among Hispanic likely voters, 67 percent to 17 percent, in a four-way race that also includes Libertarian Gary Johnson and the Green Party’s Jill Stein. In a head-to-head matchup with Johnson and Stein removed, Clinton leads Trump 70 percent to 17 percent among Latinos likely to vote.
politico 10/17
Yeah, they are going to make a huge difference. Particularly as they are turning out in record numbers in Florida, Nevada and other important states.
Quote:Quote:The Hispanic population, a sleeping giant, is now awake. The Hispanic turnout will be far higher than it was in 2012: The number of Hispanics who voted early in Florida this year is about the same as the total number that voted four years ago. The same story holds in heavily Hispanic areas across the country, whether the Latino neighborhoods of Las Vegas or the Texas counties along the Rio Grande.
Mrs. Clinton’s exact margin among Hispanic voters could prove just as important. She will probably win Latino voters by an even wider margin than Mr. Obama did, but polls have not always been clear on just how much she might beat Mr. Obama’s 2012 results. He won Latino voters by a margin of 71 percent to 27 percent, according to exit polls.
The Latino vote has the best shot of deciding the election in Florida, where Hispanic voters represent a well-above-average share of the population. Mr. Trump does not have a credible path to the presidency without the state’s 29 electoral votes.
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RE: To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?
November 8, 2016 at 4:27 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 4:20 pm)Aroura Wrote: I think polling indicates about 18% of Hispanics are voting Trump, 76% Clinton, and the rest undecided or 3rd party.
They are a rapidly growing population, so calling them rapists and threatening to deport them seems to have been a bad move.....who'd have thought it!
The mobilization of Hispanics is a huge deal in this election, and I think it'll be the reason Clinton wins. It was a big factor in Obama's 2012 victory as well
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RE: To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?
November 8, 2016 at 4:29 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 8, 2016 at 4:20 pm)Aroura Wrote: I think polling indicates about 18% of Hispanics are voting Trump, 76% Clinton, and the rest undecided or 3rd party.
They are a rapidly growing population, so calling them rapists and threatening to deport them seems to have been a bad move.....who'd have thought it!
I think he was speaking specifically about the ones who come in here illegally. Not about Hispanics in general.
Does that really make a difference? It doesn't to me.
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RE: To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?
November 8, 2016 at 4:30 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 8, 2016 at 4:20 pm)Aroura Wrote: I think polling indicates about 18% of Hispanics are voting Trump, 76% Clinton, and the rest undecided or 3rd party.
They are a rapidly growing population, so calling them rapists and threatening to deport them seems to have been a bad move.....who'd have thought it!
I think he was speaking specifically about the ones who come in here illegally. Not about Hispanics in general.
About the ones he wishes to deport, yeah. But he didn't specify about the rapists. He just said
" When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
That sounds like he's referring to all Mexican immigrants, not just illegals. And even so, are illegals more likely to be rapists and drug traders? No. It was a highly racist remark. Like bafflingly so.
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RE: To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?
November 8, 2016 at 4:32 pm
If Florida goes to Clinton and that seals the deal, we'll have Hispanic voters to thank for saving the U.S. as we know it from Trump and his ilk.
Good job, Donald! You're a genius, bigly!
I fucking love poetic justice.
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RE: To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?
November 8, 2016 at 4:33 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 8, 2016 at 4:20 pm)Aroura Wrote: I think polling indicates about 18% of Hispanics are voting Trump, 76% Clinton, and the rest undecided or 3rd party.
They are a rapidly growing population, so calling them rapists and threatening to deport them seems to have been a bad move.....who'd have thought it!
I think he was speaking specifically about the ones who come in here illegally. Not about Hispanics in general.
Still objectively wrong. Like majority of the crap he spewed in the first two-thirds of his campaign. Illegal immigrants do not commit any more crimes compared to the general population. They do, however, pay more income tax than he does.
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RE: To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?
November 8, 2016 at 4:35 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 4:29 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (November 8, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think he was speaking specifically about the ones who come in here illegally. Not about Hispanics in general.
Does that really make a difference? It doesn't to me.
As a Hispanic myself, I personally would have been offended if he meant Hispanics in general. But I agree it's a nasty comment nonetheless.
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RE: To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?
November 8, 2016 at 4:39 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 3:47 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (November 8, 2016 at 3:42 pm)Vincent Wrote: I voted Clinton. Not because I like her, but because I despise Trump more. I considered choosing a third party, but I feel like that would be wasting my vote. The possible outcomes in this election are Trump and not Trump. And the only way I can do anything effective to push towards not Trump is voting for Hillary.
My state, Texas, was leaning 12 points to Trump as of yesterday morning. A Clinton vote may as well be no vote at all, and for me, voting Lib is my way of saying, "fuck y'all, you're losing me."
Yeah, it sucks to be in hard red or hard blue states if you are not in the majority. My parents are Republicans but they live in California - their Trump vote would be as useless as yours. I'm fortunate enough to live in Virginia, where I have a hope of the state leaning democrat. Can't say I'm fond of the electoral college system that way, but getting your vote out their still matters.
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RE: To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?
November 8, 2016 at 4:55 pm
I never vote.
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RE: To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?
November 8, 2016 at 5:20 pm
I went straight democratic.
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