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(February 20, 2017 at 4:53 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Where
In the Rioters Beware thread. Basically she denied being alt-right, and Thump brought up a post where she invited another member to join the BNP, a far right UK group. In fairness I seem to recall that she did admit that she was in the wrong about that but don't remember which thread that was in, and the search function on tapatalk is beyond shit. Also in fairness I also didn't think it was particularly relevant to the Rioters Beware thread, but since what she posted on topic was pretty outrageous anyway, I wasn't too inclined to rush to her defence.
Finally, FWIW I wouldn't call it a ragequit, don't know if she has actually quit and I actually think it would be a shame if she has, I did see signs that she was capable of re-evaluating her position on things, unlike many of the other far right assholes here
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Immediately after I posted a rebuttal to her claim that she'd never mentioned BNP showing conclusively that she had, she posted in CIJS that she was tired of all this crap ... and that's the last I read of her.
"Ragequit" is, to be fair, probably inaccurate. Perhaps "shamequit" is a better fit.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the case that no one knows what was said in IMs between RobertE and Bella.
Or did Bella invite Robert to join the BNP on the forum?
I was under the impression that all that's been shown conclusively is that RobertE said Bella said she hoped Robert had joined the BNP. There was no post where Bella invited Robert to join.
It wouldn't really make sense for someone to ask someone living in France to join the BNP since it's the British National party and I thought that was where Robert Lived.
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(February 20, 2017 at 10:33 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(February 20, 2017 at 5:06 pm)ukatheist Wrote: In the Rioters Beware thread. Basically she denied being alt-right, and Thump brought up a post where she invited another member to join the BNP, a far right UK group. In fairness I seem to recall that she did admit that she was in the wrong about that but don't remember which thread that was in, and the search function on tapatalk is beyond shit. Also in fairness I also didn't think it was particularly relevant to the Rioters Beware thread, but since what she posted on topic was pretty outrageous anyway, I wasn't too inclined to rush to her defence.
Finally, FWIW I wouldn't call it a ragequit, don't know if she has actually quit and I actually think it would be a shame if she has, I did see signs that she was capable of re-evaluating her position on things, unlike many of the other far right assholes here
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Immediately after I posted a rebuttal to her claim that she'd never mentioned BNP showing conclusively that she had, she posted in CIJS that she was tired of all this crap ... and that's the last I read of her.
"Ragequit" is, to be fair, probably inaccurate. Perhaps "shamequit" is a better fit.
What is cijs?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
February 20, 2017 at 11:04 pm (This post was last modified: February 20, 2017 at 11:31 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(February 20, 2017 at 10:43 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the case that no one knows what was said in IMs between RobertE and Bella.
Or did Bella invite Robert to join the BNP on the forum?
I was under the impression that all that's been shown conclusively is that RobertE said Bella said she hoped Robert had joined the BNP. There was no post where Bella invited Robert to join.
It wouldn't really make sense for someone to ask someone living in France to join the BNP since it's the British National party and I thought that was where Robert Lived.
Robert made it plain in a public post that she'd done so. I quoted that and her reply back to him.
I'd say the two of them knew what was in that PM, and neither argued that BNP wasn't mentioned.
Added: here's the exchange:
(February 13, 2017 at 3:54 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(February 13, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: BNP and the UK's version of National Front (same name, entirely different group) were never mentioned and I definitely do not support those people at all. Thanks for spreading lies though.
Hey, speaking of lies --
(September 25, 2016 at 10:11 am)RobertE Wrote: I don't even know why you respond to me. You do realise as to why I won't even acknowledge your pm about wanting me to support the BNP don't you? I don't associate myself with any political party so, let alone the British National Party/EDL/NF or whatever party you are a part of.
[Emphasis added by Thump]
I can't say I blame you for being ashamed of your neofascism. I'd be, uh, mortified if people realized I were a far-right cunt too.
Remember, kid -- unless a thread is deleted, everything stays in the archives, and some of us have read and remembered your horseshit. You do not get to revise your views without acknowledgment.
(February 20, 2017 at 11:04 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(February 20, 2017 at 10:43 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the case that no one knows what was said in IMs between RobertE and Bella.
Or did Bella invite Robert to join the BNP on the forum?
I was under the impression that all that's been shown conclusively is that RobertE said Bella said she hoped Robert had joined the BNP. There was no post where Bella invited Robert to join.
It wouldn't really make sense for someone to ask someone living in France to join the BNP since it's the British National party and I thought that was where Robert Lived.
Robert made it plain in a public post that she'd done so. I quoted that and her reply back to him.
I'd say the two of them knew what was in that PM, and neither argued that BNP wasn't mentioned.
So the proof is that RobertE said Bella asked him if he'd joined the BNP then she said it was based on a misunderstanding.
Just as far as I'm aware at least, there's no post where Bella said anything like that conclusively proves support of the BNP.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was, I don't know much detail about Bella's politics though.
Conclusive proof would be a post from Bella, but all there is to show is the post of a banned troll and Bella's reponse which is to say there was a misunderstanding, no hard feelings and a smiley face, which is quite vague.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
February 20, 2017 at 11:49 pm (This post was last modified: February 20, 2017 at 11:49 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(February 20, 2017 at 11:38 pm)paulpablo Wrote:
(February 20, 2017 at 11:04 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Robert made it plain in a public post that she'd done so. I quoted that and her reply back to him.
I'd say the two of them knew what was in that PM, and neither argued that BNP wasn't mentioned.
So the proof is that RobertE said Bella asked him if he'd joined the BNP then she said it was based on a misunderstanding.
Just as far as I'm aware at least, there's no post where Bella said anything like that conclusively proves support of the BNP.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was, I don't know much detail about Bella's politics though.
Conclusive proof would be a post from Bella, but all there is to show is the post of a banned troll and Bella's reponse which is to say there was a misunderstanding, no hard feelings and a smiley face, which is quite vague.
And no argument from Bella about PMing about BNP, right. I think you forgot that part.
If someone accused me of doing something I didn't do, I'd rip them a new one.
I think I know a bit more about her politics than do you, having had many discussions with her about various and sundry issues, and I stand by my words.
So the conclusive proof that we have is based on what RobertE said and what Bella didn't say.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
(November 8, 2016 at 2:43 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: You and Robert are both from the UK, stop lying. YOU sending pm's about a French political party makes absolutely no sense.
Why would you support it?
That's right we are both from the UK but he is currently living in France. We shared a dislike of the EU, and since I had heard the NF in France wanted to exit the EU, I stupidly sent a message saying something along the lines of "hope you're voting NF" without fully checking into the background of the party. Turns out they are way too socially conservative for my tastes, as stated in the quotes.
It is literally that simple but you're making a big deal out of nothing. This isn't some plan to hide my alleged white supremacist views that you think I hold. It was just me trying to start a conversation with Robert.
Bella just stop...
Roberts response to you made no indication that was the case.
(September 25, 2016 at 10:11 am)RobertE Wrote: I don't even know why you respond to me. You do realise as to why I won't even acknowledge your pm about wanting me to support the BNP don't you? I don't associate myself with any political party so, let alone the British National Party/EDL/NF or whatever party you are a part of.
Here Robert is CLEARLY speaking of BRITISH POLITICAL PARTIES, who am I going to believe? You or my lying eyes?
Your response to RobertE wasn't "what are you talking about? We're discussing French politics."... No it was.
(September 25, 2016 at 10:21 am)Bella Morte Wrote: I'm definitely not a BNP or EDL supporter, though.
Totally acknowledging that you are discussing BRITISH POLITICS.
(September 25, 2016 at 10:28 am)RobertE Wrote: No problem Bella. We can share the same views or have different views, but I don't associate myself with any political party be it left or right. I found out the hard way when I was in the Socialist Workers Party and got clobbered by a policeman when there were NF supporters just across from us. It was a rough place to be so, I left the hooligans and keep myself to myself, let the left/right hooligans do their own shit.
Again the Social Workers Party is British, this further corroborates that you were discussing British politics, not French.
Funny how all these references relate to the UK and not one in relation to France.
Give it up Bella, you're a rank amateur, the only person you have fooled is Fatandfathless...
The problem is when I say it, everyone has to put on their cape and come to her rescue, especially simp number 1.
(November 9, 2016 at 9:42 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: No one cares what Huggy thinks except Huggy.
Bella, you're a good friend of mine, I'm so glad you're back and aren't going to listen to that Huggy guy's bullshit.
So from what I can tell the proof is that RobertE (Who's a banned troll) said Bella sent a private message to him about the BNP and then Bella said it was a misunderstanding followed by saying she definitely doesn't support the BNP.
In my opinion you'd have to be blind to not thing Bella leans heavily right wing but I don't see conclusive evidence that she supports the BNP.
Not evidence that would stand up in court anyway, it's basically heresay and loosely connecting the dots to where her saying she doesn't support the BNP is her admitting she was talking about British politics and therefore she definitely supports the BNP which seems like faulty logic at least to me.
Anyway, I'm not Bella's representative and it's a small issue for me to give a fuck about.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
