Do you then pronounce them "resurrected?"
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Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
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Hey, that reminds me of a thread ...
Trying to update my sig ...
The common theme I see here is "burden of proof" and "an afterlife has no evidence so dont believe in it." But why then firmly believe in no afterlife, if there is no evidence for it. You guys have it a little mixed up. The burden of proof lies on the one making a claim. If you claim there is no life after death, the burden of proof would be on YOU. Since it cannot be proven, there is no reason to believe it. This is why i cannot take a stand with insufficient evidence.
Like anyone, I think it would be nice if my life went on, but I am also fully prepared for the possibility it will not. As regards the energy. I have heard we lose 6 onces at the moment of death. Anyone know if this is true? And the point about maggots and apples and where to draw the line, I feel it would have to apply to everything or nothing, as I dont feel humans are special in any way. RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
July 14, 2011 at 3:26 pm
(This post was last modified: July 14, 2011 at 3:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Creator gods, afterlives......all from "spiritual but not christian" people.
Honestly if the full spectrum of spiritual has become select positions from within judeo-christian theology...I'm disappointed. Where's the sex magic, the ecstatic trance, mind altering substance fueled revelations, hanging from your nipples on a pole, or base jumping with a rope tied to your ankles? I'd be asking for pictures instead of hanging my head in disgust. (James, keep your pictures to yourself) Hey Xon, when you go to heaven, does your soul cease to be affected by entropy? If it does not, when your soul "dies" is there an afterlife for spent souls from heaven? Exactly how many layers of heaven are there? Does it go on forever, like the turtles, all the way to the bottom? What would a porterhouse taste like in the afterlife, is there steak in the afterlife? How would one communicate with other souls, trapped, floating in the aether? What's your argument against heaven being a case of turtles all the way down, can you refute my ghostly porterhouse steak, or spiritual ears? (you cannot, of course, because I will redefine my terms, move goalposts, appeal to ignorance, and shift the burden of proof...I may even throw in some sciencey terms, if all else fails I will post a wall of text and insist that you must refute each claim, point by point...if you do, I will state that you aren't really the person I was addressing my remarks to, and as such, your answers are irrelevant.) Follow that Xon.
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Oh good grief! Now he's bringing up 21 Grams!
Holy horseshit.
Trying to update my sig ...
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
July 14, 2011 at 3:34 pm
(This post was last modified: July 14, 2011 at 3:37 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(July 14, 2011 at 3:26 pm)xonage Wrote: The common theme I see here is "burden of proof" and "an afterlife has no evidence so dont believe in it." But why then firmly believe in no afterlife, if there is no evidence for it. You guys have it a little mixed up. The burden of proof lies on the one making a claim. If you claim there is no life after death, the burden of proof would be on YOU. Since it cannot be proven, there is no reason to believe it. This is why i cannot take a stand with insufficient evidence. If 6 ounces do dematerialize into energy and depart, how does it depart? By the copiously confirmed E=MC^2 formula 6 ounces of mass = 3.5 Megatons of energy. Is the city surrounding the dying man leveled at the moment by the release of energy comparable in magnitude to the detonation of a large hydrogen bomb? Study basic physics diligently and you too can raise yourself by your bootstraps out of the babbling spiritualist idiothood in which you appear to be stuck at the moment.
http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp
A very dubious and small scale "experiment" that nobody has been able to repeat. Available via any search engine, guaranteed to reduce the embarrassment of posting bullshit.
How about this, I keep losing one of my socks at night. Since I don't have any evidence proving it isn't tiny little gnomes sneaking into my room to steal them, should I keep an open mind to it? Lack of evidence proving something is false is no reason to keep an open mind to it. One can only go by the reasonableness of the thing in question. Is it reasonable to believe tiny little gnomes are stealing my socks? No, so there is no need to keep an open mind until evidence proves otherwise. Is it reasonable to think the soul lives on after death? No, so there is no need to keep an open mind to it.
Plus, how would one go about obtaining evidence proving there is no afterlife?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
July 14, 2011 at 3:44 pm
(This post was last modified: July 14, 2011 at 3:47 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(July 14, 2011 at 3:38 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote: Plus, how would one go about obtaining evidence proving there is no afterlife? One could prove it conclusively one way or another by jumping out of a window. Since the faithful and the spiritual seems loath to do so, I assume they are really already swayed by less conclusive evidence for absence of afterlife, inspite of their protestations. |
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