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RE: Plagiarism in the NT
July 24, 2017 at 11:22 pm
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(July 24, 2017 at 11:18 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The words placed into the mouth of your god are prophecies after the fact, coincidentally identical to other narratives, allusions from previous works of fiction....and poetic language that the authors were familiar with?
The only thing they don't seem to be, above...are the words of a god. How did that happen?
How did you come to that conclusion?
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RE: Plagiarism in the NT
July 24, 2017 at 11:27 pm
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(July 24, 2017 at 2:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Entire phrases lifted from the OT and conveyed to this jesus character.
Quote:Psalm 22. 18: 'They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon them.
Mark 15.24: 'They part his garments among them, casting lots upon them.
Quote:Psalm 22:7-8King James Version (KJV)
7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
Mark 15:29-31King James Version (KJV)
29 And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days,
30 Save thyself, and come down from the cross.
31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save.
Quote:Psalm 22:1-15King James Version (KJV)
22 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mark 15:34King James Version (KJV)
34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Just cut and pasted bullshit by "mark". What could they have done with a word processor?
Well for one thing they'd have had a better thesaurus.
(July 24, 2017 at 11:22 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (July 24, 2017 at 11:18 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The words placed into the mouth of your god are prophecies after the fact, coincidentally identical to other narratives, allusions from previous works of fiction....and poetic language that the authors were familiar with?
The only thing they don't seem to be, above...are the words of a god. How did that happen?
How did you come to that conclusion?
Um...that the evidence of this is what objective historians have concluded? And just what the fuck evidence do you have that it's in any way divine, or even coherent or ethical on a human level?
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Plagiarism in the NT
July 24, 2017 at 11:33 pm
Ah, the "prophecy" excuse.
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RE: Plagiarism in the NT
July 24, 2017 at 11:36 pm
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(July 24, 2017 at 11:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Ah, the "prophecy" excuse.
#1 on the apologist hit parade. Yup right on time
Yup just as I predicted only i'll admit his points this time are more unhinged then I expected
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RE: Plagiarism in the NT
July 24, 2017 at 11:40 pm
(July 24, 2017 at 11:36 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (July 24, 2017 at 11:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Ah, the "prophecy" excuse.
#1 on the apologist hit parade. Yup right on time
Yup just as I predicted only i'll admit his points this time are more unhinged then I expected
Quick! Go back and edit your posts to retroactively make it look like they were just as unhinged as you expected! He'll totally buy that!
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Plagiarism in the NT
July 24, 2017 at 11:42 pm
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What evidence? What do you consider to be an objective historian? What is the basis of their reasoning? Are you shifting the burden of proof already?
(July 24, 2017 at 11:36 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (July 24, 2017 at 11:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Ah, the "prophecy" excuse.
#1 on the apologist hit parade. Yup right on time
Yup just as I predicted only i'll admit his points this time are more unhinged then I expected
Actually wasn't even going to post, until you called me out and started speaking for me. But you probably won't believe me, no matter what I say. You'll just make up a story, declare it true and disrupt actual discussion.
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RE: Plagiarism in the NT
July 24, 2017 at 11:55 pm
So it's 4 posts in and his already dodging questions .
FYI his tag makes no freaking sense
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RE: Plagiarism in the NT
July 24, 2017 at 11:59 pm
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Also... you didn't predict that. You can go back and look.
(July 24, 2017 at 11:55 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: So it's 4 posts in and his already dodging questions .
Just an aversion to people trying to manipulate the conversation, to things I didn't claim in the context and avoid the questions I asked about their claims.
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RE: Plagiarism in the NT
July 25, 2017 at 1:53 am
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(July 24, 2017 at 10:59 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Some are prophesies, some may be coincidence, and some may be re-using the language they are familiar with. Further, the early Church often alluded to the New and Old Testaments, if not directly quoting.
(July 24, 2017 at 11:22 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (July 24, 2017 at 11:18 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The words placed into the mouth of your god are prophecies after the fact, coincidentally identical to other narratives, allusions from previous works of fiction....and poetic language that the authors were familiar with?
The only thing they don't seem to be, above...are the words of a god. How did that happen?
How did you come to that conclusion? How did you, is what you ought to be asking. I was under the impression that you believed in this nonsense.
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RE: Plagiarism in the NT
July 25, 2017 at 11:55 am
Quote:You'll just make up a story, declare it true and disrupt actual discussion.
That is rich coming from a fucking jesus freak, RR. Irony is lost on you, I take it.
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