Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?

[KevinM1]

And, of course, without an independent, verifiable 3rd party commenting on supernatural things going on, there's no reason to accept any of it. Because the 'eyewitnesses' sure as shit weren't unbiased.

Pre-emptive "ah, but they faced torture and death" rebuttal: so haven't many other political outsiders. Religion is politics.

[LadyForCamus]

I'm picturing a sideshow barker exclaiming his church has the REAL Jesus, step right up, and everyone else is just making do with a yokel wearing a plastic Jesus mask.

Will the real jebus please stand up?  😁

[Minimalist]

I'm picturing a sideshow barker exclaiming his church has the REAL Jesus, step right up, and everyone else is just making do with a yokel wearing a plastic Jesus mask.

They love phony shit.

How many heads did John the Baptist have, anyway?

• Roman Catholic tradition holds that the head on display in San Silvestro in Capite in Rome is that of John the Baptist, discovered for the second time,[not in citation given] as also maintained by Pope Benedict XVI in August 2012.[1]
  
• Islamic tradition maintains that the head of Saint John the Baptist was interred in the once-called Basilica of Saint John the Baptist in Damascus. Pope John Paul II visited the tomb of John the Baptist at the Umayyad Mosque during his visit to Syria in April, 2001. Consequently, Muslims also believe that Jesus Christ will return to this location in the Second Coming.
  
• In medieval times, it was rumored that the Knights Templar had possession of the head, and multiple records from their Inquisition in the early 14th century make reference to some form of head veneration.[9]
  
• Amiens Cathedral claims the head as a relic brought from Constantinople by Wallon de Sarton as he was returning from the Fourth Crusade.
  
• Some believe that it is buried in Turkish Antioch or southern France.[8]
  
• It is believed that a piece of his skull is held at the Romanian skete Prodromos on Mount Athos.
  
• A reliquary at the Residenz in Munich, Germany, is labeled as containing the skull of John the Baptist.[10]
  

Now there's a fucking miracle for you!

[SteveII]

That's a contradiction. Reason dictates the more Christian testimony the more reasonable to believe it reflects reality.

Nope. That's why asset bubbles are a feature of the economic system. The majority of people can clearly be wrong about very important things.

All it tells us is that there are a lot of people who believe the same thing, not whether they imagined it or not.

That's a horrible comparison. Aggregated population trends and attitudes compared to "I'm convinced this is what happened"?

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Doesn't matter how much christian testimony there is if it's all indistinguishable from what could have been imagined instead.

Meaningless observation since it could literally apply to every human perception ever.

[Minimalist]

compared to "I'm convinced this is what happened"?

But it is apparent to us that you are easily convinced of what you want to be true.

We atheists call people like you "shitheads."

[Amarok]

Cue RR screams of" conspiracy theories !". Despite failing to back this straw man . And refuting the ton of counter evidence that your cult  is a heap of myths and legends believed by fools. And no Road no one gives 10 damns how it sounds to you . Your the clown who buys this shit . Thus your reason deaf.

[KevinM1]

compared to "I'm convinced this is what happened"?

But it is apparent to us that you are easily convinced of what you want to be true.

We atheists call people like you "shitheads."

This year, in the United States and other Western countries with public education, there are people convinced that the world is flat.

People being convinced that a magic Jew existed in a time where the world powers believed in entire pantheons of gods, many of them changing shape and walking among humans, even sleeping with them and creating demigods, isn't really the indication of truthiness that Steve thinks it is.

Humans are convinced of incorrect/false things all the fucking time. Human conviction has never been a measurement of truth. If it was, suicide bombers would be paragons.

[Amarok]

Pre-emptive "ah, but they faced torture and death" rebuttal: so haven't many other political outsiders. Religion is politics.

And even almost all of those stories can be put in serious doubt .

[I_am_not_mafia]

Doesn't matter how much christian testimony there is if it's all indistinguishable from what could have been imagined instead.

Meaningless observation since it could literally apply to every human perception ever.

No because if we use the scientific method then we can write down a falsifiable hypothesis, an experiment to test it and the observed results. Then someone else can repeat the experiment and try it for themselves without having to imagine it.

[Amarok]

Meaningless observation since it could literally apply to every human perception ever.

Bullshit