Emotions are intrinsically good and bad

[Edwardo Piet]

I'm a hedonist and I don't think like you do, TD . . . I think coherently.

[The Grand Nudger]

You think that our rational value judgments themselves are real emotions.  But, in Star Trek, the Vulcans are described as emotionless beings.  Therefore, this says that our rational value judgments are not real emotions and, thus, not any real value judgments.

Oh, well......if it's in star trek..that settles it, lol. Are you ready to beam up yet?

Any broad separation between "rational decisions" and "emotional decisions" is a term of art and folklore...and it wouldn't matter if there were such a separation in some specific case..since that won't help any of the other nonsense in your monument to nonsense. You;re going to do what you're going to do...but if you want a compelling and coherent position, you're going to have to start over from the ground floor.

[Edwardo Piet]

Proof via Star Trek?!

Who the fuck needs that when there's refutation via Star Wars? Or IOW: The Chewbacca defense.

[Transcended Dimensions]

You think that our rational value judgments themselves are real emotions.  But, in Star Trek, the Vulcans are described as emotionless beings.  Therefore, this says that our rational value judgments are not real emotions and, thus, not any real value judgments.

Oh, well......if it's in star trek..that settles it, lol.  Are you ready to beam up yet?

Any finite separation between "rational decisions" and "emotional decisions" is a term of art and folklore.

No, it's not.  This claim is not specific to Star Trek and other works of art.  It is also a claim made by neuroscientists as well such as that one neuroscientist I quoted in this book.

[The Grand Nudger]

I think you're overselling your own claim and the agreement of any nueroscientist. Perhaps you should reach out to whomever you quoted, though...see if they feel they're being well represented?

[brewer]

I don't see any evidence that she hears voices or experiences hallucinations though.

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Lol she literally copypasted people's responses from here into her book.

You don't have to have auditory or visual hallucinations when schizophrenic, quite a few don't. 

Delusions however are invariably present. Persecution, paranoia, grandeur, magical, .............

Does anyone wonder why she finds it "convenient" to live with her mother but won't talk about why? And that she talks about medical issues like she's the patient of a therapist? 

[Edwardo Piet]

I don't see any evidence that she hears voices or experiences hallucinations though.

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Lol she literally copypasted people's responses from here into her book.

You don't have to have auditory or visual hallucinations when schizophrenic, quite a few don't. 

Delusions however are invariably present. Persecution, paranoia, grandeur, magical, .............

Does anyone wonder why she finds it "convenient" to live with her mother but won't talk about why? And that she talks about medical issues like she's the patient of a therapist? 

Well I've had many of the 'negative symptoms' of schizophrenia in the past but at least here in the UK you don't get diagnosed with schizophrenia if you never experience any of the 'positive symptoms'.

[Transcended Dimensions]

I think you're overselling your own claim and the agreement of any nueroscientist.  Perhaps you should reach out to whomever you quoted, though...see if they feel they're being well represented?

Our biology and survival instincts delude us all the time.  So, I wouldn't be surprised if many people are deluded into thinking that their rational value judgments are real emotions.  Even if they weren't real emotions, I still wouldn't be surprised if people were deluded into thinking they were real value judgments due to, again, their biology and survival instincts deluding them.  Such deluding mechanisms serve a benefit to aid our survival.  Many people have these delusional mechanisms such as religious believers while others, such as atheists, are beyond them and can see the truth that gods such as Thor are nonsense.  I am beyond such delusional mechanisms which is the reason why I can see the truth that it is our positive emotions that give real good values to our lives.

[The Grand Nudger]

Our biology and survival instincts delude us all the time.  So, I wouldn't be surprised if many people are deluded into thinking that their rational value judgments are real emotions.  Even if they weren't real emotions, I still wouldn't be surprised if people were deluded into thinking they were real value judgments due to, again, their biology and survival instincts deluding them.  Such deluding mechanisms serve a benefit to aid our survival.  Many people have these delusional mechanisms such as religious believers while others, such as atheists, are beyond them and can see the truth that gods such as Thor are nonsense.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were deluded into thinking that you weren't deluded.  See how that works?

[Transcended Dimensions]

Our biology and survival instincts delude us all the time.  So, I wouldn't be surprised if many people are deluded into thinking that their rational value judgments are real emotions.  Even if they weren't real emotions, I still wouldn't be surprised if people were deluded into thinking they were real value judgments due to, again, their biology and survival instincts deluding them.  Such deluding mechanisms serve a benefit to aid our survival.  Many people have these delusional mechanisms such as religious believers while others, such as atheists, are beyond them and can see the truth that gods such as Thor are nonsense.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were deluded into thinking that you weren't deluded.  See how that works?

Then it really comes down to a situation where we really don't know the truth one way or the other regardless of the things I say or what others say.