Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency

[Mystic]

Not really Khemikal,  Noah although reminded them to the extent they could distinguish morality into seven skies, and clarified the issue of goodness and the seven skies with respect to it's levels, they still didn't believe but would accuse him of speaking things they don't understand and the same with Moses was treated like that by Pharoah and his people.

One Prophet that God allowed to blame himself was Yonus, but that was a severe injustice to himself. He did nothing wrong but he had so much love to his people, he would blame himself rather than them.  They ended up believing but only when they saw the punishment coming.

The arguments from God are clear, the witness argument is in Quran and the most emphasized.  Not only is it sound, but it's emphasized with respect to different subjects and gives context of how necessary it is to believe in God and manifest he is, and how we make use of this knowledge in so many subjects.

I am not a Prophet, but I know these arguments are sound. I know the witness argument is clear. It is beyond doubt, but you guys just don't budge, and it is not my fault.

[bennyboy]

Not really Khemikal,  Noah although reminded them to the extent they could distinguish morality into seven skies, and clarified the issue of goodness and the seven skies with respect to it's levels, they still didn't believe but would accuse him of speaking things they don't understand and the same with Moses was treated like that by Pharoah and his people.

One Prophet that God allowed to blame himself was Yonus, but that was a severe injustice to himself. He did nothing wrong but he had so much love to his people, he would blame himself rather than them.  They ended up believing but only when they saw the punishment coming.

The arguments from God are clear, the witness argument is in Quran and the most emphasized.  Not only is it sound, but it's emphasized with respect to different subjects and gives context of how necessary it is to believe in God and manifest he is, and how we make use of this knowledge in so many subjects.

I am not a Prophet, but I know these arguments are sound. I know the witness argument is clear. It is beyond doubt, but you guys just don't budge, and it is not my fault.

And one guy that the Tooth Fairy did in fact leave money for was bennyboy, at ages 5-8.  And the Wizard of Oz, though he was called a god, was really a false god, because he was hiding behind a curtain in the corner of the room.  And Cinderella actually DID marry a prince, because he eventually found that her glass slipper matched her.

Hey look. . . is something is written, then it must be true.

[The Grand Nudger]

Not really Khemikal,  Noah although reminded them to the extent they could distinguish morality into seven skies, and clarified the issue of goodness and the seven skies with respect to it's levels, they still didn't believe but would accuse him of speaking things they don't understand and the same with Moses was treated like that by Pharoah and his people.

Noah is a fictional character in a mythical deluge, and Exodus never happened.    

One Prophet that God allowed to blame himself was Yonus, but that was a severe injustice to himself. He did nothing wrong but he had so much love to his people, he would blame himself rather than them.  They ended up believing but only when they saw the punishment coming.

The guy that was swallowed by the sea dragon...you mean?  

The arguments from God are clear, the witness argument is in Quran and the most emphasized.  Not only is it sound, but it's emphasized with respect to different subjects and gives context of how necessary it is to believe in God and manifest he is, and how we make use of this knowledge in so many subjects.

I am not a Prophet, but I know these arguments are sound. I know the witness argument is clear. It is beyond doubt, but you guys just don't budge, and it is not my fault.

Are the above the clear and sound arguments meant to demonstrate to the world that this is Totally Not Made Up™?  Yes, Mystic, it's your fault that you fail to be convincing.  I'm willing to grant that you're not exactly working with top grade material, so the witchdoctors who told you these lies may have set you up..but that's what you get when you credulously fling yourself out there selling third hand fairy tales to people who don't believe the first and second set of bullshitters.

The "witness argument" is not an argument, but your own horrid attempts at poetry, made all the more irritating by the fact that I -know- you can speak plain and comprehensible english, and yet you choose not to....because maybe, if you speak the magic spell just right it will break the demon-locks on all of our poor hearts. All the while, through this intolerable display of inanity, you complain that others are just too obtuse to see your brilliance.

[Mystic]

They are a sign of the true religion yes. The best arguments for God would be provided in the scripture from him. And the fact that it did not go the cosmological argument route but the witness/perception route speaks volumes it is from the true God who wishes to help humans awaken to that which they are heedless to and don't reflect upon but is ever there present with them.

The fact Muslims went the cosmological argument route and were blind to the witness argument route, speaks volumes of the darkness upon their hearts and the sorcery they believe in, and the blindness of the leaders they look up to.

As for the family of Mohammad, their words are a cure for finding out the treasures of Quran and being free from the sorcery regarding it, and yes, when you begin to reflect, it's signs and wonders manifest.

They will free you if you give them a chance, but you are too busy doing important things, to give them a chance, right?

[The Grand Nudger]

They are a sign of the true religion yes. The best arguments for God would be provided in the scripture from him. And the fact that it did not go the cosmological argument route but the witness/perception route speaks volumes it is from the true God who wishes to help humans awaken to that which they are heedless to and don't reflect upon but is ever there present with them.

Then the true religion is bullshit.  A story of things that never happened and a god who isn't there.  That; all that can be surmised from the statement

"I know these things are true because: insert fiction"

The fact Muslims went the cosmological argument route and were blind to the witness argument route, speaks volumes of the darkness upon their hearts and the sorcery they believe in, and the blindness of the leaders they look up to.

Or maybe it shows that they don't value cantrips as much as you do?  OFC they're wrong, but no more or less than you are.  Pot, meet kettle.  They "went the cosmological route" because..in actual history, they found themselves sitting on a mountain on philosophic tradition after their conquest of the ANE and Med. One can palpably imagine a moment, where the new landlords thought to themselves "Thank Allah, because our shit sounded awfully silly." The Romans had done the same centuries beforehand.

As for the family of Mohammad, their words are a cure for finding out the treasures of Quran and being free from the sorcery regarding it, and yes, when you begin to reflect, it's signs and wonders manifest.

Abracadabra!

They will free you if you give them a chance, but you are too busy doing important things, to give them a chance, right?

[Mystic]

One day you are going to have to slay the irrational doubt you dearly hold on to despite the knowledge of clear proofs. No one is going to do that for you.

[The Grand Nudger]

Will it be a tuesday?

[Amarok]

One day you are going to have to slay the irrational doubt you dearly hold on to despite the knowledge of clear proofs. No one is going to do that for you.

And one day up will be down . Left will be right . White will be black .

[bennyboy]

One day you are going to have to slay the irrational doubt you dearly hold on to despite the knowledge of clear proofs. No one is going to do that for you.

And one day up will be down . Left will be right . White will be black .

And nonsense will be sense.

[The Grand Nudger]

-and on that day many shits will be given. Today is not that day, no shits are given.