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RE: Porn, porn and more porn!
December 19, 2017 at 3:46 pm
I also have a lot of sympathy for people who are lonely or want a spouse and don't have one. Zero judgement there, though I still disagree with the act itself.
But if my husband, for example, was looking at porn I would be absolutely crushed and furious. I'm always here/available and I never turn down sex which we have plenty of. And if for whatever reason I was absent for a while, he has plenty of naked pics/videos of me. Pretty sure I'd be broken up about it if he chose other women instead.
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December 19, 2017 at 4:16 pm
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(December 19, 2017 at 3:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ... he has plenty of naked pics/videos of me.
You kids nowdays have to film everything, doncha. Just don't get your camcorder stolen in Europe or you'll be "Casalinga Americana"
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RE: Porn, porn and more porn!
December 19, 2017 at 4:25 pm
Camcorder? More like password protected flash drive, if you have kids in the house. Or so I hear...
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RE: Porn, porn and more porn!
December 19, 2017 at 6:27 pm
(December 19, 2017 at 2:04 pm)SteveII Wrote: (December 19, 2017 at 1:30 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Three pages of nonsense that can be summed up as: "These things are bad because god says so."
You might have a point if there were not also physical and mental health effects that affect current and future relationships. Hmmm, if God created us, wouldn't he have known the problems that sexual immorality can create? If half of these things are true, then Jesus' understanding--in the first century--of the human condition is nothing short of remarkable: https://fightthenewdrug.org/3-reasons-wh...s-harmful/
Many behaviors can have negative effects. That doesn't mean that the acts themselves are immoral.
People's brains react similarly to other forms of stimuli, like video games, yet I don't think anyone would say that the very act of sitting down and playing some Mario is immoral. And if you think I'm exaggerating, look up MMO addiction.
Shit, alcohol is an addictive substance, one which can affect more than the brain, yet no one thinks that having a drink or two is an immoral act.
Yes, porn can result in bad consequences*. But that doesn't mean that it will, inevitably. Addiction can happen with a lot of things, but that doesn't mean that the thing, itself, is somehow innately immoral.
Calling it 'sexual immorality' is begging the question.
*I'm well aware of the negative things - abuse (physical, drug), sex trafficking, rape, etc. - surrounding the porn industry. Like with anything, it's buyer beware. There are plenty of ways to find out which studios/directors are good to their workers and those that aren't. Usually, the studios run by women are better in that respect.
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RE: Porn, porn and more porn!
December 19, 2017 at 6:27 pm
(December 19, 2017 at 3:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But if my husband, for example, was looking at porn I would be absolutely crushed and furious. I'm always here/available and I never turn down sex which we have plenty of. And if for whatever reason I was absent for a while, he has plenty of naked pics/videos of me. Pretty sure I'd be broken up about it if he chose other women instead.
That's a pretty tough standard you've set. You're a straight lass and seem to have the hots for Megan Fox. What chance does a hetero guy have?
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RE: Porn, porn and more porn!
December 19, 2017 at 6:41 pm
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I think in general all the animal instincts are covered by religious tenets. The 7 sins are basically a list of motivated animal behaviors that, if they get out of control, become unproductive.
Sex is fine. Get married, make babies, God approves. Unproductive sex in any form is a waste of time and energy.
Eating is fine. Eating far too much is unhealthy and inefficient of human resources, and is therefore proscribed against.
Of course, this all depends on the goal of maximizing efficiency and productivity, and not that of maximizing pleasure.
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RE: Porn, porn and more porn!
December 19, 2017 at 6:52 pm
(December 19, 2017 at 6:27 pm)wallym Wrote: (December 19, 2017 at 3:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But if my husband, for example, was looking at porn I would be absolutely crushed and furious. I'm always here/available and I never turn down sex which we have plenty of. And if for whatever reason I was absent for a while, he has plenty of naked pics/videos of me. Pretty sure I'd be broken up about it if he chose other women instead.
That's a pretty tough standard you've set. You're a straight lass and seem to have the hots for Megan Fox. What chance does a hetero guy have?
Having sex with your wife rather than masturbating to porn doesn't seem like that much to ask. I'd feel pretty shitty if he'd rather do that than have sex with me.
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RE: Porn, porn and more porn!
December 19, 2017 at 7:19 pm
(December 19, 2017 at 6:52 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (December 19, 2017 at 6:27 pm)wallym Wrote: That's a pretty tough standard you've set. You're a straight lass and seem to have the hots for Megan Fox. What chance does a hetero guy have?
Having sex with your wife rather than masturbating to porn doesn't seem like that much to ask. I'd feel pretty shitty if he'd rather do that than have sex with me.
Are they mutually exclusive? Would you let him watch porn while having sex?
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RE: Porn, porn and more porn!
December 19, 2017 at 7:26 pm
It's not a matter of "letting him" or not. He has the same beliefs as myself and even if I were to suggest something like that (which I wouldn't) he'd say no.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Porn, porn and more porn!
December 19, 2017 at 7:37 pm
Porn is boring anyway. I'd rather watch Sienfeld reruns.
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