Just speculation at this point but.....

[Mermaid]

Ok. This is not something to argue about. I am just giving you my thoughts.

[Mr.Obvious]

Brian, you seem a bit stressed. You okay?
I don't think anyone wants to fight over this, we just don't agree.

[FFaith]

She wasn't handed her money? Who cares? She's like a megachurch pastor who got rich by selling bullshit and woo. Who gives a shit who Obama would endorse? Since when did Obama become infallible? He'd endorse Mitt Romney if Mitt decided to run for the Dems and won the nomination. He already stole Mitt's healthcare. People are already super annoyed having celebs preach at them with their propaganda non-stop. People don't want another celeb to run for prez. They want celebs to STFU in general, and stick to what they're good at. And lastly, I don't like Oprah's talking style. Consider me not impressed. She talks just like your average woo salesman, and even many of them are more well spoken than her. She's not close to being qualified.

I know she's not your first choice Brian, but she shouldn't be in your top million choices. Anyone but 'insert Republican here' is what gave you Trump in the first place. If you want another president like Trump in the future, keep it up. It would be funny to see her run and get bitch slapped by Bernie though.

[Mr.Obvious]

Okay, Well, i stand corrected.
There are those who want to fight over this :p

[CapnAwesome]

Face facts Brian, Oprahs policies wouldn't stray far from typical hard right policies, apart from increased support for woo cures to health problems.

As a woman totally dependant on the current system, Oprah's not going to bite the corporate hand that feeds her.

I'm sure Oprah is socially liberal, willing to combat climate change, and support health care for all. Aside from political experience, how was Hillary any better?

Aside from political experience? Lol. Aside from what matters the most, how is she better? My main gripe with Trump has always been that he's not qualified to do the job. Democrats want to have it both ways, where they can criticize Trump and praise Oprah for the exact same thing. C'mon, Oprah isn't even qualified to do what she does, in my opinion. She promotes garbage pseudo science regularly, is a Jesus freak and worst of all, gave Dr. Phil a show.

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Brian, you seem a bit stressed. You okay?
I don't think anyone wants to fight over this, we just don't agree.

Brian will fight over everything. Lol. Nobody goes off topic with such blunt force as him either.

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I don't see this as a positive trend. Leadership by celebrity as opposed to leadership by ability/policy.

This will lead to bad things.

Correction: this has led to bad things.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

The candidate needs his/her own message and the party needs to support the nominee with the party platform.  Of course the candidates should all be in agreement with the party's historical values.  The nominee must be able to sell his/her vision to the critical voting block.

I dunno, Wyrd. As far as democratic hopefuls  for 2020 that have been tossed about none of them seem to have a message aside from resisting Trump and the GOP....and as far as the dem party platform, what the hell do they stand for these days? Even Schumer recognized all of that and stated several months ago that the Dems need a message other than resistance. The way the economy and jobs have been picking up the Dems are facing an uphill battle with their resistance message. They need to.make clear what their platform is, keeping jobs and the economy high on the list. They need a moderate candidate who has a message concerning jobs, the economy, trade, foreign policy,...the resistance shit is only going to sink the Democrats.

From a historical perspective the Dem candidate, whoever it might be, will lose in 2020 if Trump runs and if he isn't completely insane at that time.  The Dem candidate will win in 2024.  If Trump doesn't run in 2020 then the Dem candidate has a chance of winning but it could be slim.  

Right now the Dems probably will do lousy in 2018 because they aren't doing anything to win.  They need to toss the old buzzards off of the carcass.

[GrandizerII]

I'm sure Oprah is socially liberal, willing to combat climate change, and support health care for all. Aside from political experience, how was Hillary any better?

Aside from political experience?  Lol. Aside from what matters the most, how is she better? My main gripe with Trump has always been that he's not qualified to do the job. Democrats want to have it both ways, where they can criticize Trump and praise Oprah for the exact same thing. C'mon,  Oprah isn't even qualified to do what she does, in my opinion.  She promotes garbage pseudo science regularly, is a Jesus freak and worst of all, gave Dr. Phil a show.

Political experience does matter, but I was questioning the part about Oprah not straying far from hard right policies. Anyway, we'll see what she has to say if/when she starts running for president.

[Haipule]

The political pundits have been speculating this morning after last night's Golden Globe Awards that the one and only Oprah might run in 2020.

We still have to focus on 18 and 19 before that, but I am at the point that ANYONE is better than 45. 

Oprah's good points, is that she speaks well, and she is a great business woman obviously. Not sure how 45 could get away with the childish name calling he does with anyone else. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts...cb4f47d6c3


I think an Oprah/Michelle ticket or Oprah/Cobert ticket would be unbeatable. Of course that isn't going to happen.

BUT, if she got nominated who would you pick for A VP?

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Don't you watch South Park? At the end of last season the writers clearly made the case that women can't write jokes, can't make semen and they can't be president!

[Longhorn]

I would prefer someone who was competent rather than someone with the name recognition to win elections.  Nonetheless it seems we have passed the point of no return on that.

Goddamn someone tell the Black Mirror screenwriters. Sounds like a good episode to me. Though may not be fantasy enough...

[GrandizerII]

I would prefer someone who was competent rather than someone with the name recognition to win elections.  Nonetheless it seems we have passed the point of no return on that.

Goddamn someone tell the Black Mirror screenwriters. Sounds like a good episode to me. Though may not be fantasy enough...

Already done in season 2, I think.