I have no words

[Cod]

Does that have to be the point of talking about it? Hey, if your jokes online are to cope, all the more power to you. I don't care about jokes. I'm wondering why you're discouraging people from talking about it.

It just got me recently that I'm such a sentimental bastard. Plus, Cod, made it look like I am a monster or something.

Don't blame me for your shitty post.

[Joods]

It just got me recently that I'm such a sentimental bastard. Plus, Cod, made it look like I am a monster or something.

Don't blame me for your shitty post.

Yeah, he definitely did that all on his own.

[henryp]

Maybe I don't notice you very much, but are you always like this? I'm all for irreverent humor. Fuck it, but saying it's tragic isn't "simulating charity." Simulating charity would be like making it rain Monopoly money on starving people or giving them the fake plastic food out of your kid's play kitchen.

There is no charity for something like this. The kid's fucking dead. It's a horrible, senseless tragedy that really defies my ability to understand humans.

It's impossible to take seriously all the sad new that are posted online, at some point you just make dumb jokes to ignore it.

The mistake you're making PP, is not thinking about the audience.  Your joke isn't particularly strong, and you've got a bunch of people who take this stuff to heart.  So even if you are joking, who is your joke meant to make laugh?  If the answer is only yourself, then you probably don't need to post it.  Just think it, unless it's a really good joke, in which you can send it to me.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

The girl's father killed her and then tried to commit hari-kari.  He probably heard a voice that claimed it was Yahweh telling him to sacrifice his daughter as a sign of devotion to him like it Abraham & Isaac.  Or he might a have made a vow to sacrifice the first person he saw in repayment for something Yahweh did for him like Jephthah did.  It's biblical.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hom...71986.html

[Shell B]

That article didn’t say it was biblical.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

That article didn’t say it was biblical.

The guy's actions were biblical.  I gave two examples.  Another example is maybe the girl didn't honor her father so he "stoned" her to death with a knife.  

Or maybe he is just a typical murderous crazy person.  Or maybe he got ticked off at his wife and killed their daughter to get back at her.  In any case all of those behaviors are documented in the Bible and (some) people love it.

If he doesn't die from his self-inflicted wound the English will give him a slap on the wrist and he'll be out of prison in no time.

[Cinjin]

If the father's guilty, I'll be the first one to say "fry him."

However, I want to believe that a father wouldn't do this to his own child. 
I so desperately want to believe he's innocent and the police have it wrong.  

[Catholic_Lady]

I would have taken her in a second.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

I would have taken her in a second.

Sex trafficking is illegal.

[Cyberman]

That article didn’t say it was biblical.

The guy's actions were biblical.

I just want to point out that this is the Black Country. While not completely impossible, there's more chance that aliens made him do it than its being biblically motivated

I gave two examples.  Another example is maybe the girl didn't honor her father so he "stoned" her to death with a knife.

Do you need to be stoned for that sentence to make sense? Just asking.

Or maybe he is just a typical murderous crazy person.  Or maybe he got ticked off at his wife and killed their daughter to get back at her.  In any case all of those behaviors are documented in the Bible and (some) people love it.

I repeat, this is not the typical bible belt town.

If he doesn't die from his self-inflicted wound the English will give him a slap on the wrist and he'll be out of prison in no time.

Yeah... about that:
https://fullfact.org/crime/how-long-do-m...ve-prison/

Every year around 300 people in England and Wales are given a life sentence for murder. About 5,500 people are currently serving a prison sentence for the same. And over 200 people annually are released having served the prison part of their sentence.

On average, those who are released will have served about 16 years in jail, with a life on licence with the probation service to follow, unless they are recalled to prison.


Life means life – but not always life in prison

People who are found guilty of murder in England and Wales have to be given a ‘mandatory life sentence’. It’s called ‘custody for life’ for those aged 18-21 and ‘detention during Her Majesty’s pleasure’ for people under 18.

But apart from the most serious cases, that doesn’t mean life in prison.

Instead, most people have to serve a minimum term in prison, which is determined by the judge in court after they’re found guilty.

Once that term is over they can be considered for release on parole, if the Parole Board decides that it is safe to release an offender back into the community.

If the circumstances are serious enough, a ‘whole life order’ is imposed by a judge, meaning that the offender will never be released from prison and cannot be considered for parole. At the moment there are 59 prisoners serving whole life sentences in prison.

If murderers are released, they still have to serve their sentence ‘on licence’ for the rest of their lives. This means they are placed under the supervision of probation officers and must stick to certain conditions for good behaviour. In practice that means potential restrictions on travel, residence and employment—these vary depending on the case.

If they breach the terms of their licence, they will be sent back to prison.


Sentences vary a lot depending on the circumstances

When a judge sentences someone for murder, he or she has to go through a process outlined in the Criminal Justice Act 2003:

   Choose the ‘starting point’ for a minimum term in prison, based on the severity of case before the court. This has to be 12 years for anyone aged 17 or under, and can be 15, 25 or 30 years for adults, or a whole life order for adults aged 21 or over.

   Consider whether the circumstances specific to the case mean the minimum term should be longer or shorter than this starting point – what are called ‘aggravating’ and ‘mitigating’ factors.

   Take into account other factors such as any previous convictions, any crimes committed while the person was on bail, and if they pleaded guilty to the murder.

Whole life orders are reserved for the most serious cases such as abducting and murdering a child or killing for a “political, religious, racial or ideological cause”. Since 2015, the murder of a police or prison officer in the course of his or her duty must carry a whole life order as a starting point.

Since judges are able to consider the circumstances specific to the case, there’s a wide variety of possible sentences. Some murderers have been known to be given under 10 years in prison when exceptional mitigating factors are taken into account.

An example is a case from a few years ago, when someone was released after just over three years and seven months. The Ministry of Justice pointed out at the time that this was because of special circumstances: “Although the offender pleaded guilty and was convicted of murder, it might be described as an assisted suicide and was dealt with apparently sympathetically by the sentencing judge.”

The actual time people spend in prison also depends on if and when they’re approved for release by the Parole Board. The average amount of time people released from prison for murder have served is about 16 years. In recent years, the majority of those released have served between 11 and 18 years.


Some do murder again

There are cases of people on a life licence for murder who have murdered again.

Between January 2007 and May 2015, 12 people were murdered by people who had previously been convicted of murder, according to the Ministry of Justice. Those murders were carried out by 11 separate offenders as one was responsible for two murders.

If anyone is convicted of a second murder while on life licence for an earlier one, they can never be released from prison again.