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The memo's out
#61
RE: The memo's out
Evidence?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#62
RE: The memo's out
Indeed wooter has a weird definition of investigation
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#63
RE: The memo's out
Yeah, what part of the memo says they didn’t disclose that the Steele dossier was their source?

This part suggests Steele was mentioned by name: “The initial FISA application notes Steele was working for a named U.S. person”
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#64
RE: The memo's out
You're getting the talking points, Tibs.  That's the entire purpose of this disastrous erosion of the public trust, norms, and relationships in governance..and for what.  To cover trumps sorry ass.  

May as well start a countdown to another bout of obstruction and/or another failed/successful attempt to pull of a saturday night massacre by yet another crooked republican admin.

Speaking of...."Putins Saturday Night Massacre"

Quote:Whiplash. It happened so swiftly, but with such surgical precision, the full impact of the series of events took a few breathless moments for the nation to grasp what had just occurred.

Andrew McCabe, deputy director of the FBI, resigns under pressure.

Then Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee vote to release a staff memo alleging FBI surveillance abuses relating to the Trump-Russia investigation, despite FBI Director Christopher Wray’s warning that some of the information is classified and there are “material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”

Literally minutes after the committee vote, the Trump administration announces it will NOT impose sanctions on Russia even though both the House and the Senate voted nearly unanimously for the sanctions that would punish Russia specifically for meddling in the 2016 presidential election, for annexing Crimea in 2014 and for its incursions in Ukraine.

And that was just Monday.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...084336001/

"But her emails! the dodgy dossier! Uranium one! FBI deep state secret society! Fake News!"
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#65
RE: The memo's out
The nail on the head 

As always Trumps lackeys have taken short sighted gain an ignore the long term damage .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#66
RE: The memo's out
(February 2, 2018 at 4:22 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(February 2, 2018 at 4:03 pm)Jane2d Wrote: Did just that and NOPE.  I find nothing that indicates Page under surveillance for years.  If you have a link post it please.  Everything I am reading indicates he came under 'surveillance' after joining Trump election team - possibly AFTER leaving the Campaign effort.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/former...le/2630576

Notice the date, august of last year, and this had already become public.  So..try again...if you're not finding it, it;s because you're not looking.  I just got a full page of old and current news, there is no dispute whatsoever on this point of fact.  The russians, for their part, appear to have thought of him as a useful idiot the entire time.  I guess they were right.  That's just what we know.  Page had, ofc, began his work in russia..in the 90's......and got swept up by other surveillance of other possible (and actual) foreign agents.

The fisa warrant was a re-authorization of surveillance that began at least 1 year before trump announced his candidacy, and two years before page become a part of the team.  He only resigned when it became public, in sept of 2016, and at that time the full extent of fbi surveillance wasn't known..because unlike today..the government wasn't in the habit of putting foreign agents on notice.  By july of 2016, however, the fbi had directly warned the campaign that foreign agents would try or already had joined his team.  Who do you think they were talking about?

The release of this highly politicized memo is damning..but only to the trumpsters..because it's a story of the fbi functioning properly and being ignored, and now...obstructed..and villified.

Yep, you produced your source, circular as it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

Page was likely under surveillance several years back due to intercepted conversations between two other russians.  And then it ended long ago.  Unlikely that it was 'ongoing'.  Probable the past surveillance was used to justify the newer episode of obfuscate the 4th.
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#67
RE: The memo's out
As usual, when someone finds out that they've been mislead, they try to settle for the person who pointed it out being coequally wrong.

Denied. A person previously under surveillance came under surveillance -again- for exactly the same shit as before, but this time..in a frighteningly increased capacity.  So..there goes the whole "he was only under surveillance after he left the campaign". bit.

What were you reading....and why couldn't you find it online until I brought it up? I'm willing to bet it's a browser algorithm.......yet another example of the subtle power of electronic fuckery...which is, for the record..ongoing.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#68
RE: The memo's out
(February 2, 2018 at 6:18 pm)Khemikal Wrote: As usual, when someone finds out that they've been mislead, they try to settle for the person who pointed it out being coequally wrong.

Denied. A person previously under surveillance came under surveillance -again- for exactly the same shit as before, but this time..in a frighteningly increased capacity.  So..there goes the whole "he was only under surveillance after he left the campaign". bit.

What were you reading....and why couldn't you find it online until I brought it up?  I'm willing to bet it's a browser algorithm.......yet another example of the subtle power of electronic fuckery...which is, for the record..ongoing.

I haven't been mislead.  I knew Page had been under scrutiny in the past and questioned your post regarding being 'under surveillance for years'.  You produced your unsubstantiated source; reflecting only that you had not made it up, but in no way have you provided evidence that the 'under surveillance for years' is accurate.

Unsubstantiated sources alleged by cnn and parroted by washington examiner.
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#69
RE: The memo's out
Oh, I see, you were being intentionally obtuse, and still are.  Is my participation required in this?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#70
RE: The memo's out
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Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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