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Why, God? Why?!
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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 8, 2018 at 7:17 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2018 at 7:21 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I don't know if my kid -is- the next Stalin, and I still won't drown him...but it's a pointless question..unless you're imagining that every single person god ordered anyone to kill in magic book...and every single person god drowns in magic flood.... was stalin...and that's more a comment on your own humanity than the humanity of any of those people.
I never did understand why people make the parenting comparison. It fails god -and- man simultaneously. Firstly, it shows god to be incapable of the basic function of a simple animal....what kind of believer wants to set that up? Secondly, it shits all over the basic function of those simple animals...discharged day in and day out all day every day all over the worldt...and what parent would treat their children as god is said to have treated his? Thirdly, and finally, it makes you say stupid shit that only a complete dick would say. Case in point...your silly question.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 8, 2018 at 7:26 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2018 at 7:27 pm by Amarok.)
What supposedly happened to free will or predestined to be Stalin no matter what? . And are the theists arguing that i can kill children if i knew they were going to be Stalin?
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 8, 2018 at 7:35 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2018 at 7:37 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(February 8, 2018 at 7:17 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I don't know if my kid -is- the next Stalin, and I still won't drown him...but it's a pointless question..unless you're imagining that every single person god ordered anyone to kill in magic book...and every single person god drowns in magic flood.... was stalin...and that's more a comment on your own humanity than the humanity of any of those people. It was a simple yes or no question, so how about a yes or a no? Every single time one of you asks me a yes or no question I'll ALWAYS give a yes or no answer so why are you so reluctant? (March 4, 2015 at 4:54 am)robvalue Wrote:(March 4, 2015 at 4:47 am)Huggy74 Wrote:Wow! OK, well you have my respect here, for giving the first real answer ever to this question. And it's a great answer. I wonder if any other theists will be so brave?(March 4, 2015 at 3:17 am)robvalue Wrote: Please answer this simple question Huggy. Pick just yes or no, and don't try and dodge the question by explaining why you can't pick yes or no. It's a simple question.No So I'll ask again. If you knew for a fact that your kid would grow up to be responsible for the deaths of millions of people, would you drown him? Answer that, then we can get into the implications. (February 8, 2018 at 7:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:What was unclear, above?(February 8, 2018 at 7:17 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I don't know if my kid -is- the next Stalin, and I still won't drown him...but it's a pointless question..unless you're imagining that every single person god ordered anyone to kill in magic book...and every single person god drowns in magic flood.... was stalin...and that's more a comment on your own humanity than the humanity of any of those people.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(February 8, 2018 at 7:37 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(February 8, 2018 at 7:35 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: It was a simple yes or no question, so how about a yes or a no? Every single time one of you asks me a yes or no question I'll ALWAYS give a yes or no answer so why are you so reluctant?What was unclear, above? It was unclear if your answer was a yes or no... so how about giving a clear yes or no, to avoid any confusion. RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 8, 2018 at 7:46 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2018 at 7:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I already told you that I don;t know whether my kid is stalin and I still won't drown him. I gave you the assholes 50/50 and that wasn't good enough? What an asshole.
Speaking of assholes.."god's love" whatever the hell that is..in addition to being something entirely alien to what any parent feels....is woefully lacking in it's ability to keep him from killing his own children..apparently his only recourse..in his vast omniscience and oh-so-competent omnipotence. Some parent....some god. ![]() Or maybe it's just you?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(February 8, 2018 at 7:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I already told you that I don;t know whether my kid is stalin and I still won't drown him. I gave you the assholes 50/50 and that wasn't good enough? What an asshole. Your answer isn't good enough because it's not an answer. Let's try again. The question was: "What if your kid was Stalin and you knew that he would be responsible for 68 million deaths... would you drown him?" I don't know what your answer of "I don;t know whether my kid is stalin and I still won't drown him." means in relation to the question. You know what would be clear? A 'yes' or a 'no'... RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 8, 2018 at 8:03 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2018 at 8:08 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Why would I kill my kid, Huggs....are you really going to castigate me for being unwilling to do so, regardless of who my kid was? You can't be so clueless as to imagine that you'll ever win the "parent's love" argument by insisting that under some circumstance I should kill my kid..either directly or indirectly?
You;re the one that just finished telling us that we were created in gods image, and further that gods's reasons were like any parent's reasons. Well..I wont kill my kids, because I love them. Now, have fun telling me all of the ways that god is different and that you were wrong. Do all of my work for me...again.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(February 8, 2018 at 8:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Why would I kill my kid, Huggs....are you really going to castigate me for being unwilling to do so, regardless of who my kid was? You can't be so clueless as to imagine that you'll ever win the "parent's love" argument by insisting that under some circumstance I should kill my kid..either directly or indirectly? Ok, so It's a no then... got it. So by knowing that your kid would be responsible for 68 million deaths, by doing nothing their blood is on your hands. Now in comparison to God, did he not love the world so much that he sacrificed his only begotten Son? You made it, clear that if you were God you'd save your kid and sacrifice untold trillions. |
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