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Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
#11
RE: Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
Remember, god is only responsible for the good things that happen or that we do.

The bad things are the fault of the devil or our own sin.

Convenient, huh?

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#12
RE: Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
The most powerful thing about being an atheist, is understanding and accepting that we control our actions and accomplishments.
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#13
RE: Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
(March 10, 2018 at 4:09 pm)haig Wrote: The most powerful thing about being an atheist, is understanding and accepting that we control our actions and accomplishments.

And taking responsibility for our actions, I also like looking at myself and not seeing someone who is in some way broken or not worthy. I enjoy not giving God any credit for anything, and I take particular pleasure in laughing in the faces of those who threaten me with his wrath..
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#14
RE: Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
Sort of akin to someone claiming aliens built the pyramids. Because there's no way mere Humans could accomplish anything worthwhile.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#15
RE: Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
(March 10, 2018 at 10:06 am)rskovride Wrote:
(March 10, 2018 at 9:00 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: A christian friend of mine had to slam on the brakes when a truck pulled in front of his motorcycle. He thought it would be a great testimony to tell me how god saved his life. It might have been if his brakes didn't work but the bike stopped anyway.

I can't find it but I remember a post Cyberman put up about a gardener who fixed up his garden and a preacher wanted the gardener to give god glory but the gardener said you should have seen how this place looked when he was out here by himself.

But now see if I do something bad (god forbid) I'm supposed to take full responsibility. Why? If I can't blame god for the bad things I do, why should I give him credit for the good things I do?

When a child is rescued from a terrible accident, it's god is great.  When, 15,000 kids under 5 die every day of things like hunger/malnutrition, its god works in mysterious ways.  

Christians are at least consistent on this, they think everything comes from god but, you don't hear much praise with the 15,000 dead kids. If you hold their feet to the fire about the issue, its always god works in mysterious ways, but its all for the good somehow.

Weren't the might makes right/ends justifies the means ethic models discredited some time ago?

Quote:Regarding identity, I was once in a christian program that consisted of a lot of brainwashing and they taught, in essence, that as humans, we are inherently bad and not worth taking another breath. However, we can be saved from all of that by taking on the identity of jesus. It's psychological bondage.  I'm embarrassed to say that I believed this for a time.

God sounds like he belongs in a James Patterson novel.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#16
RE: Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
Quote:You can't reason with that kind of thinking.

No but you can ridicule the fuck out of it.
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#17
RE: Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
(March 10, 2018 at 12:07 pm)Hammy Wrote: What is it about believing in a load of utter donkey bollocks and superstition having such a strong correlation, do you think?



Here's a nickle. Give me five pennies.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#18
RE: Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
Rhondazvous Wrote:  Weren't the might makes right/ends justifies the means ethic models discredited some time ago? 

Absolutely.  

That reminds me of a question I heard.  You may have already heard it but here goes.
Is something moral because god says so or does god say so because they are moral?
If it is because god says so then he can change his mind and nothing is inherently moral.
If god say so because they are inherently moral then why do we need god to to say so?
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#19
RE: Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
So that it is just as easy and fair to blame Satan....and his minions....via our naturally inherited weakness for wickedness via the supposed sin of Adam...for the other things we do?
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#20
RE: Why Give God Credit for the Things We Do?
I used to ask Jesus to take the wheel every night. I knew he'd get me to my destination safely. I had faith in him and still do. He was my Chief Mate, from the Philippines.
I believe in life before death.
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