I am sorry, MysticKnight

[WinterHold]

I'm sorry; MysticKnight.

You don't have to ask me why, but I'm sorry. I won't claim I'm losing brain matter, I won't claim that I suffer from psychosis too.
I judged you. But this is me: I suck at reading people.

Forgive me. That is just me. For every member or visitor seeing this: I have judged this person -MysticKnight-, and didn't take my time to validate what I'm saying.

But a word of advice: trust in yourself, never let anybody doubt your mental state. It's not about saying "fuck you"; but it's about looking the person in the eye and say "soooooooo ? ".

I'm sorry. Forgive me. I apologize for giving you a hard time.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Spoken like a gentleman.

Boru

[Mystic]

I'm sorry; MysticKnight.

You don't have to ask me why, but I'm sorry. I won't claim I'm losing brain matter, I won't claim that I suffer from psychosis too.
I judged you. But this is me: I suck at reading people.

Forgive me. That is just me. For every member or visitor seeing this: I have judged this person -MysticKnight-, and didn't take my time to validate what I'm saying.

But a word of advice: trust in yourself, never let anybody doubt your mental state. It's not about saying "fuck you"; but it's about looking the person in the eye and say "soooooooo ? ".

I'm sorry. Forgive me. I apologize for giving you a hard time.

Thank you Atlas. It means a lot. 

Also, regarding religion (although I said I would not talk about it), you and I are almost the same view, I don't believe anything not found in Quran fully verified can be believed in, but the only difference is I believe you have to have support for all interpretations (lest we get into interpretation war and everyone can make up whatever interpretation they want) in hadiths, and I don't believe hadiths are an authority aside from that fact they give insight to Quran or contradict it, and any hadith which the Quran doesn't verify and prove are practically worthless.

I don't believe in clergy class which Shiites and Sunnis both embrace, and have turned Quran upside down in many ways, and abandoned the book due their idols and followed fabrications that clearly contradict Quran.

And peace be upon you. It means a lot.

[The Grand Nudger]

[Edwardo Piet]

Not sure if I've got the right theme

[Brian37]

I'm sorry; MysticKnight.

You don't have to ask me why, but I'm sorry. I won't claim I'm losing brain matter, I won't claim that I suffer from psychosis too.
I judged you. But this is me: I suck at reading people.

Forgive me. That is just me. For every member or visitor seeing this: I have judged this person -MysticKnight-, and didn't take my time to validate what I'm saying.

But a word of advice: trust in yourself, never let anybody doubt your mental state. It's not about saying "fuck you"; but it's about looking the person in the eye and say "soooooooo ? ".

I'm sorry. Forgive me. I apologize for giving you a hard time.

Thank you Atlas. It means a lot. 

Also, regarding religion (although I said I would not talk about it), you and I are almost the same view, I don't believe anything not found in Quran fully verified can be believed in, but the only difference is I believe you have to have support for all interpretations (lest we get into interpretation war and everyone can make up whatever interpretation they want) in hadiths, and I don't believe hadiths are an authority aside from that fact they give insight to Quran or contradict it, and any hadith which the Quran doesn't verify and prove are practically worthless.

I don't believe in clergy class which Shiites and Sunnis both embrace, and have turned Quran upside down in many ways, and abandoned the book due their idols and followed fabrications that clearly contradict Quran.

And peace be upon you. It means a lot.

Look MK, you have to understand that on this website everyone goes after everyone. Some are more library types and some are more boxing ring, like me.

BUT, at the end of the day all of us are human. In real life, and on the internet, you are going to hear shit that pisses you off. I am glad I am not a dictator myself, because there are lots of people I can think of that I'd want to shut up. 

It is OK to defend yourself. It is not ok to always assume anyone who might disagree with you, or is merely teasing you in fun, is your enemy.

I don't think you or Atlass need Islam, just like I don't think Catholic Lady needs Jesus.  Changing the world to be more non violent isn't about everyone bending to you or what you like. Changing the world to be more peaceful is about the ability to know the difference between blasphemy and bigotry. It is the difference between hate of bad logic, and human rights. Most humans desire to be violence free. Most humans need companionship. 

Atlass is not your enemy, I am not your enemy. 

If you never leave your religion, and I hope you and Atlass do, that is not as important to me as non violence. I would say the same to any Christian or Jew or Hindu or Buddhist.

Humans are all we have.

[WinterHold]

Spoken like a gentleman.

Boru

Thank you Boru. Truly

MysticKnight

I'm sorry; MysticKnight.

You don't have to ask me why, but I'm sorry. I won't claim I'm losing brain matter, I won't claim that I suffer from psychosis too.
I judged you. But this is me: I suck at reading people.

Forgive me. That is just me. For every member or visitor seeing this: I have judged this person -MysticKnight-, and didn't take my time to validate what I'm saying.

But a word of advice: trust in yourself, never let anybody doubt your mental state. It's not about saying "fuck you"; but it's about looking the person in the eye and say "soooooooo ? ".

I'm sorry. Forgive me. I apologize for giving you a hard time.

Thank you Atlas. It means a lot. 

Also, regarding religion (although I said I would not talk about it), you and I are almost the same view, I don't believe anything not found in Quran fully verified can be believed in, but the only difference is I believe you have to have support for all interpretations (lest we get into interpretation war and everyone can make up whatever interpretation they want) in hadiths, and I don't believe hadiths are an authority aside from that fact they give insight to Quran or contradict it, and any hadith which the Quran doesn't verify and prove are practically worthless.

I don't believe in clergy class which Shiites and Sunnis both embrace, and have turned Quran upside down in many ways, and abandoned the book due their idols and followed fabrications that clearly contradict Quran.

And peace be upon you. It means a lot.

You are welcome.

Consider it a talk about "views", not religion. I have my reasons to be this hostile to the Islamic clergy, aside from them spreading ignorance and support oppression.
If you were to the Middle East recently; you'll realize the amount of damage both sects cause to Islam. The Sunni and Shiite institutions stand like cement blocks in the road of change. Most death we saw after 2011 in the Arab Spring was coated and decorated by "Fatwas" from the religious institution.

So, yeah : I might be angry, but believe me it's because of what I saw and because of disappointments in the building of a real democracy that would allow you, me, Shiites and Sunnies along with anybody else to speak freely without worrying about going to prison.

Agreeing on a view or disagreeing is up to the logic we made of the case. But the freedom to say it is what matters.
All I will say to you regarding "the views"; is to look more carefully in the Hadiths, blindly and without the interpretations of somebody else.

A wise saying, says that if it has lots of contradictions; then it's not valid.
That .

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It must be hilarious for you, doesn't it ><

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Thank you Atlas. It means a lot. 

Also, regarding religion (although I said I would not talk about it), you and I are almost the same view, I don't believe anything not found in Quran fully verified can be believed in, but the only difference is I believe you have to have support for all interpretations (lest we get into interpretation war and everyone can make up whatever interpretation they want) in hadiths, and I don't believe hadiths are an authority aside from that fact they give insight to Quran or contradict it, and any hadith which the Quran doesn't verify and prove are practically worthless.

I don't believe in clergy class which Shiites and Sunnis both embrace, and have turned Quran upside down in many ways, and abandoned the book due their idols and followed fabrications that clearly contradict Quran.

And peace be upon you. It means a lot.

Look MK, you have to understand that on this website everyone goes after everyone. Some are more library types and some are more boxing ring, like me.

BUT, at the end of the day all of us are human. In real life, and on the internet, you are going to hear shit that pisses you off. I am glad I am not a dictator myself, because there are lots of people I can think of that I'd want to shut up. 

It is OK to defend yourself. It is not ok to always assume anyone who might disagree with you, or is merely teasing you in fun, is your enemy.

I don't think you or Atlass need Islam, just like I don't think Catholic Lady needs Jesus.  Changing the world to be more non violent isn't about everyone bending to you or what you like. Changing the world to be more peaceful is about the ability to know the difference between blasphemy and bigotry. It is the difference between hate of bad logic, and human rights. Most humans desire to be violence free. Most humans need companionship. 

Atlass is not your enemy, I am not your enemy. 

If you never leave your religion, and I hope you and Atlass do, that is not as important to me as non violence. I would say the same to any Christian or Jew or Hindu or Buddhist.

Humans are all we have.

We are all human at the end of the day.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Thank you Boru. Truly 

Think nothing of it. Apologies are, at the best of times, difficult. I simply thought you delivered yours with grace and sincerity. Well done. 

Boru

[WinterHold]

Thank you Boru. Truly 

Think nothing of it. Apologies are, at the best of times, difficult. I simply thought you delivered yours with grace and sincerity. Well done. 

Boru

It is one big pill to swallow, as it's a killer to the pride, you're right. But causing hell to somebody feels even worse, so the choice becomes clearer.