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March 30, 2018 at 8:34 am
It's quite useful to learn the difference, I spent lots of time rotating in the same spot once upon a time, so it's healthy to pour what I know.
I always thought once that a "server" is actually a physical, large computer. Though that is true to some extent; it is only half of the truth.
So, a "server" has two sides: the hardware (large or small) and the software.
You can have a "server" on your laptop or PC; the options are many for such software.
So a server is a "program" that requires certain "hardware requirements" that vary a lot. There is the "small" hardware; and there is the "big" hardware.
So when you read about networks and the discussion of servers, put that in mind.
This bit gave me long periods of not understanding the web. So I hope it's useful to you.
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RE: Servers
March 30, 2018 at 9:33 am
If you have folders on your computer that are 'shared' with other computers, your computer is acting like a 'server' for those files.
A 'server' is a very, very general designation. You can put a 'web server' on your PC using, say, nginx or apache2. You won't get traffic unless you have a public IP address, but you can display pages for your home network.
There are 'file servers', 'ssh servers', 'mysql servers', etc, etc, etc. Any time your computer offers a service to another computer, it is a 'server'.
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RE: Servers
March 30, 2018 at 9:51 am
I always thought a 'server' was that cute girl who brings me my pastrami sandwich.
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March 30, 2018 at 10:55 am
I managed a small datacenter once and had an old supermicro that would not make it past its POST unless you took a pencil and rotated one of the fans manually. Ahhhh, technology ..
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RE: Servers
March 30, 2018 at 10:54 pm
A server is that which serves data upon request. It’s really not any more complicated than that.
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March 31, 2018 at 3:52 am
(This post was last modified: March 31, 2018 at 3:55 am by ignoramus.)
Yep ^^^ what he said....nothing to do with hardware at all. In fact I had several webservers (apache) all running virtually.
Kev, is apache still a "thing" ... I've been out of the game for a while.
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March 31, 2018 at 10:01 am
(This post was last modified: March 31, 2018 at 10:02 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Virtual servers are still running on hardware. It's just not a dedicated blade. The difference between..say, a virtual server running on your pc and a dedicated server sitting in a farm somewhere, is that the dedicated servers board and components are purpose built to be a server....and so better at it than your pc.
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RE: Servers
March 31, 2018 at 1:29 pm
Is this why I can never get my garlic bread sticks timely?
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RE: Servers
March 31, 2018 at 8:56 pm
(March 31, 2018 at 3:52 am)ignoramus Wrote: Yep ^^^ what he said....nothing to do with hardware at all. In fact I had several webservers (apache) all running virtually.
Kev, is apache still a "thing" ... I've been out of the game for a while.
Yeah, Apache2 is still a thing, but NGINX is very popular (mostly because it has better performance). I’m using NGINX myself on my VPS. I like its configuration syntax better (it’s almost YAML-like).
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RE: Servers
March 31, 2018 at 9:30 pm
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(March 30, 2018 at 9:33 am)polymath257 Wrote: If you have folders on your computer that are 'shared' with other computers, your computer is acting like a 'server' for those files.
A 'server' is a very, very general designation. You can put a 'web server' on your PC using, say, nginx or apache2. You won't get traffic unless you have a public IP address, but you can display pages for your home network.
There are 'file servers', 'ssh servers', 'mysql servers', etc, etc, etc. Any time your computer offers a service to another computer, it is a 'server'.
Knowing about "IIS" and "Apache" were a revelation to me; even though I used both extensively, and currently using an IIS server.
But non is dedicated I think; all packaged and executed as whole systems. Meaning is: IIS has its ssh capabilities, database capabilities...etc. At least that's how I understand it.
(March 30, 2018 at 9:51 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I always thought a 'server' was that cute girl who brings me my pastrami sandwich.
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(March 30, 2018 at 10:55 am)rskovride Wrote: I managed a small datacenter once and had an old supermicro that would not make it past its POST unless you took a pencil and rotated one of the fans manually. Ahhhh, technology ..
First thing that came to my mind, is a post apocalypse shelter's main server !
(March 30, 2018 at 10:54 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: A server is that which serves data upon request. It’s really not any more complicated than that.
In theory it might not be that complicated. But once things start to branch, and services become many,it becomes very confusing.
(March 31, 2018 at 3:52 am)ignoramus Wrote: Yep ^^^ what he said....nothing to do with hardware at all. In fact I had several webservers (apache) all running virtually.
Kev, is apache still a "thing" ... I've been out of the game for a while.
No; the complication is from the software. Nothing on the hardware.
If I can come between you two; yes; it's still about 50% or more of the market?
Microsoft can rot for all I care.
(March 31, 2018 at 10:01 am)Khemikal Wrote: Virtual servers are still running on hardware. It's just not a dedicated blade. The difference between..say, a virtual server running on your pc and a dedicated server sitting in a farm somewhere, is that the dedicated servers board and components are purpose built to be a server....and so better at it than your pc.
Can you host a physical site using a virtual server if you bought a domain name?
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