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RE: Doonesbury Trashes Evangelical Hypocrites
April 23, 2018 at 6:59 pm
(April 23, 2018 at 5:52 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I'm more talking about deities and deification both are beliefs and all eastern religions . But Huggies already tried this tactic and after i listed off deities he tried to say only creator deities count . I don't buy this . If your telling me Guan Yu is a god of war he still counts as a god . Thus your not an atheist .
Yeah, the line between god and spirit is really nonexistent in a lot of Eastern religions. Like Shinto has spirits for almost everything (really, it's a lot like Khem's idea of targeted marketing gods in another thread). Taoism, like a lot of other Eastern religions, talks about Yin and Yang, as well as other spiritual entities. They're not necessarily creator deities, but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck. And, again, Buddha seems to sit squarely on the godhood boundary, to the extent that any distinction is meaningless in practice.
So, that's why the idea of atheistic religions - at least, those that aren't openly and perhaps mockingly aping Christianity - is fuzzy. Because atheists, by definition, don't believe in any god, and a lot of other flavors of divinity are close enough to at least be considered godlike.
In any case, the entire point by theists on this matter is to attempt a really weak tu quoque in order to paint us either as being hypocrites, or, at the very least, just as bad as the theists we criticize. I'm sure that Huggy still thinks that Stalin's Russia is an example of atheistic dogma rather than a totalitarian dogma that violently imposed atheism on the masses as a means of controlling them.
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RE: Doonesbury Trashes Evangelical Hypocrites
May 3, 2018 at 1:47 pm
(April 23, 2018 at 2:29 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: (April 23, 2018 at 1:17 pm)Drich Wrote: meh...
We don't all have to be Scholars to be apart of the church.
But it helps. 
According to Jesus the less you know the happier you can be. Think of children and what they know of God. they know God is, and that's it. Jesus often times point to children and their level of faith as the bar great intellects must obtain.
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RE: Doonesbury Trashes Evangelical Hypocrites
May 3, 2018 at 1:50 pm
(May 3, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Drich Wrote: (April 23, 2018 at 2:29 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: But it helps.
According to Jesus the less you know the happier you can be. Think of children and what they know of God. they know God is, and that's it. Jesus often times point to children and their level of faith as the bar great intellects must obtain.
So the more ignorant you are, the more likely you are to believe in god.
That's literaly what you just wrote.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Doonesbury Trashes Evangelical Hypocrites
May 3, 2018 at 1:50 pm
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-and there's the lord of creation..promoting ignorance.
I doubt that you'd be satisfied to hear what my children know about gods, and if your god is suggesting that everyone should aspire to be more like them..it's promoting the abandonment of christianity. What a fuckup.
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RE: Doonesbury Trashes Evangelical Hypocrites
May 3, 2018 at 1:57 pm
(May 3, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Drich Wrote: (April 23, 2018 at 2:29 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: But it helps.
According to Jesus the less you know the happier you can be. Think of children and what they know of God. they know God is, and that's it. Jesus often times point to children and their level of faith as the bar great intellects must obtain.
Martin Luther: "Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his reason."
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RE: Doonesbury Trashes Evangelical Hypocrites
May 3, 2018 at 2:46 pm
Quote:According to Jesus the less you know the happier you can be. Think of children and what they know of God. they know God is, and that's it. Jesus often times point to children and their level of faith as the bar great intellects must obtain.
So Christians are like children 
Yeah that makes sense
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RE: Doonesbury Trashes Evangelical Hypocrites
May 3, 2018 at 3:13 pm
(May 3, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Drich Wrote: According to Jesus the less you know the happier you can be.
Clearly, we know how you achieved happiness.
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RE: Doonesbury Trashes Evangelical Hypocrites
May 3, 2018 at 4:13 pm
Quote:Can you articulate what theism has mandated?
Huggy, even you can't be that stupid. I think you are merely desperate to escape the corner you have painted yourself into.
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May 3, 2018 at 4:16 pm
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I'm sure can be anything he wants to be, if he tries hard enough and puts in the work. 
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RE: Doonesbury Trashes Evangelical Hypocrites
May 3, 2018 at 5:15 pm
(April 23, 2018 at 12:30 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
Quote:No need to quote the catechism to me since I don't consider the catholic church to be any kind of authority.
Here's the thing; an atheist is not being punish for a "thought crime" they are facing the consequences of refusing to accept the prescribed remedy for their condition...
You're not special; everyone is in the same boat, you just consciously refuse to accept that God exists, and subsequently refuse repentance... Is it God's fault if you choose to die in your sins?
Is it the doctors fault if you refuse to take your prescribed medicine and die in agony, after you been warned ad nauseam what would happen if you don't take it? If a person repents will he get eternal life in the golden cube called New Jerusalem?
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