Looks Like The WLB Got Hoodwinked

[Minimalist]

-In North Korea, children as young as 11 are routinely subject to forced labour.

-In North Korea, if a political prisoner gives birth, the baby is taken from her, killed, and fed to guard dogs.

-In North Korea, if you aren't in the government or the military, you have no right to food. 

-In North Korea, freedom of movement is so limited that it is virtually impossible for people to go and look for food.

-In North Korea, nearly half of deaths in detention, re-education, or labour camps result from malnutrition.

-In North Korea, girls as young as 14 are forcibly drafted into prostitution.

No wonder the WLB loves them.  That's his vision for 'Murrica.

[Rev. Rye]

When my Dad and I were watching the live footage from MSNBC, I pointed out the conspicuous absence of China. Given that they were pretty much the one party that kept us from nuclear Armageddon last year, and they’re more or less the reason North Korea is still allowed to exist, the fact that they didn’t appear certainly reinforces the perception that the talks were a lot less substantial than first appeared.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

But don't act like our government cares what Kim does to his people.

You seem to have missed my point, which is that your government doesn't care what Kim does to his people.  And that's the shame of it all.

Boru

[Rev. Rye]

But don't act like our government cares what Kim does to his people.

You seem to have missed my point, which is that your government doesn't care what Kim does to his people.  And that's the shame of it all.

Boru

The thing is, it’s actually in the best interest of all nations involved (the USA, China, and both Koreas) that the status quo be maintained, if only because reunification would be a complete motherfucking disaster, since it would require the South taking an instant 50% bonus in their population of people who make 5% of what their cousins up north, are chronically starved, not educated to do ANYTHING but praise the Kim dynasty (and the few refugees who have defected to the South are treated as an underclass in South Korean society, something that the Chinese would also have to deal with in the event of a collapse) and would also have to spend a shitton of money to fix the shoddy infrastructure in the North. And, of course, there’d be a If the Syrian refugee crisis is causing this much of a tumult in America, imagine that there’s 150 million coming to its shores and you’ll get a good impression of why there’s no hurry to reunite.

And if you’re saying they could just reform North Korea without reabsorbing it, if that were a possibility, you’d some liberalizing policies would have happened in the past 68 years.

Those suffering North Koreans are the child of Omelas for that part of Asia. If they’re still suffering, things can be stable (at least what passes for it in there, anyway), and life can go on as it always has for everyone else. Why yes, that does suck.

[The Valkyrie]

Hoodwinked or paid off by his Kremlin overlords?

[Wyrd of Gawd]

But don't act like our government cares what Kim does to his people.

You seem to have missed my point, which is that your government doesn't care what Kim does to his people.  And that's the shame of it all.

Boru

Kim doesn't do anything to his people.  His butt-kissing thugs do it.  Anyone with a grenade could help solve the Kim problem.

[Anomalocaris]

When my Dad and I were watching the live footage from MSNBC, I pointed out the conspicuous absence of China. Given that they were pretty much the one party that kept us from nuclear Armageddon last year, and they’re more or less the reason North Korea is still allowed to exist, the fact that they didn’t appear certainly reinforces the perception that the talks were a lot less substantial than first appeared.

Yeah? Could their presence have overcome trump’s presence to give negotiation any Appearance of substance? Furthermore, given trumps willingness to rip up treaties Willy Nilly including those that have been laboriously negotiated with multiple partners Purely for domestic point scoring with a know nothing base,  what major power would even consider having Trump as a partner in any sort of significant multilateral negotiation?

[Rev. Rye]

If only China had some dirt on him like Putin apparently does...

[Fireball]

If only China had some dirt on him like Putin apparently does...

There are only so many fists that can be jammed up one ass. Putin got there first.

[Amarok]

Kim doesn't do anything to his people.  His butt-kissing thugs do it.  Anyone with a grenade could help solve the Kim problem.

Signing the orders that killed people is doing something