The God Who Regrets

[Jehanne]

What you got in the OP is a clear Biblical contradiction, but, conservative Christians can "explain" it all away; for them, it's just an answer that is in search of questions.  They've been doing this shit now for centuries.

[Minimalist]

And doing it poorly judging by the decline in believers.

[vulcanlogician]

Ha! No gods exist! Just made up bullshit!

Hey man, made up bullshit isn't so bad. In a way, fiction is made up bullshit. The Lord of the Rings is fiction. Fiction excites the imagination; it brings people joy.

Some may argue that religion brings people joy, but there's a difference. Gays and transgenders don't have to struggle with bigotry because of some shit Frodo said on the way to Mount Doom.

[Jehanne]

Ha! No gods exist! Just made up bullshit!

Hey man, made up bullshit isn't so bad. In a way, fiction is made up bullshit. The Lord of the Rings is fiction. Fiction excites the imagination; it brings people joy.

Some may argue that religion brings people joy, but there's a difference. Gays and transgenders don't have to struggle with bigotry because of some shit Frodo said on the way to Mount Doom.

I speak from experience.  Suffered night terrors for years beginning around 12 or 13, sometimes, multiple times a night due to the teachings of my fundamentalist Christian church that I would burn in eternal Hell due to my, as a biological man, wearing skirts.

[The Grand Nudger]

Gays and transgenders don't have to struggle with bigotry because of some shit Frodo said on the way to Mount Doom.

..give it a few thousand years. 

[vorlon13]

It's always ok to throw out a Bible verse if it condemns the queers or uppity women, even if the context is wrong, but point out 2 mutually exclusive Bible verses and the mental gyrations, contortions and twisting weasel wordiness will boil out of the defenders like oral projectile diarrhea.

[vorlon13]

God condemns Himself with His own words:

Ezekiel 20 (KJV)
25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;

[Rhondazvous]

For an "all-knowing" god this asshole seems to fuck up a lot.



How come you didn't know that was going to happen when you "anointed" him, asswipe?

You guys love to take scripture out of context...

God's original purpose was to lead the nation of Israel through a prophet, the first being Moses.

Later the nation of Israel wanted to be like the other nations and switch from a theocracy to a monarchy, which was not God's will for them to do, but he allowed it.

1 Samuel 8:4-21

So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah.  They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead us, such as all the other nations have.”

But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord.  And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king.  As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”

Samuel tries to warn them that if they have a king, then they will basically become peasants and serfs and when they eventually come under the rulership of a tyrant, they will cry to God, but he will not hear them.

But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said.  “We want a king over us.  Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.”

When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the Lord.  The Lord answered, “Listen to them and give them a king.”

So to answer you question, God DID know what would happen, but the x-factor as always is free will...

So the people wanted a king, and god amounted a man he knew would mess up. What did they do, twist his divine arm and make him say uncle? How can you expect me to worship such a brown nose?

Free will is just a disingenuous way of admitting that there is no god. It's all about people, what they want, and what they do.

[Minimalist]

This will take a little study, for those so inclined and you can bet your ass that the xhristards won't be doing it because their fucking heads will explode.

https://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/Genesis_texts.html

[size=undefined]To understand what scholars are talking about when they discuss the "J" or "E" or "P" Text of Genesis, it helps if we look closely at the first two chapters of Genesis*, which illustrate the subject. If we note some textual oddities first, it becomes easier to see how scholars formulated the ideas of the J, E, and P text.[/size]
[size=undefined]To begin, when textual criticism and its systematic techniques for analyzing ancient manuscripts first became available in the 18th and 19th centuries (and even earlier in nonscholarly readings from the Renaissance) many readers noticed some odd details in the book we call Genesis. The first part of Genesis (1:1-2:3) differed from the later parts (Genesis 2:4-3:23) in interesting ways. [/size]

[size=undefined](1) First, each of these two sections of Genesis contains a different introduction for the creation story. Genesis 1:1 launches with the eloquent and imminently quotable,[size=undefined] "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters." [/size][/size]
[size=undefined]The text reaches its conclusion in Genesis 2:1, where the narrative voice announces, [size=undefined]"Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array."[/size] Finis. The end. However, a second introduction appears in Genesis 2:4:[size=undefined] "This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created. When the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth . . . ."[/size] This initially seems a little redundant--at least on the surface of things. It seems to suggest a second creation story rather than one alone.[/size]

Now, if you look at the link above you see cn.edu.  CN in this case stands for Carson-Newman University which styles itself a "Christian University" in fucking Tennessee, no less.  I'm surprised the fundie asswipes haven't burned it to the ground!

Anyway, this is what Robert Price is talking about when he discusses the piss-poor job of homogenizing the various tales which were floating around Canaan.  For that matter, xtians did an equally piss poor job of harmonizing the 4 gospel accounts they settled on with their myriad of contradictory references.  But the morons refuse to see it for what it is.

Shitty literature.

[LadyForCamus]

But! But! That’s the olllllld testament!