Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: February 25, 2025, 4:47 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 10 Vote(s) - 1.8 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:CDF47

I know it gets a bit repetitive because my main point stands the same which I believe is proof of a designer. I keep having to defend the main point. I think the order in a chaotic universe shows more evidence of design. There shouldn't be such order. 


Actually there should be. Chaos Theory, (which you obviously never learned about) demonstrates that order arises in this universe, spontaneously. 
Your statement that the universe is chaotic is totally FALSE. Order exists EVERYWHERE.
As far as we can see.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

You have to keep repeating this non-argument, as it's not persuasive.
Your argument is the well known form of the (fallacy) *argument from personal incredulity*. It's bogus. 
Millions of others can see the same data, and do not see a "designer", and in fact perfectly plausible pathways for the formation of RNA/DNA exist in Biochemistry, with no designer.

Proof (faith) by a designer, is an un-Christian concept.
Paul tells you (Ephesians 2:8-9) "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—  not by works, so that no one can boast."


And BTW, the "supression" of the many many gospels and non-canonical scriptures, (Timothy said ALL scripture was "god-breathed", not just the canonical stuff, ... there was no canon when he said that) .....  was done on very strange grounds. Iraneaeus said there were 4 winds, and 4 pillars on which the Earth stood, 4 corners of the Earth, and there were 4 beasts in the Apocalypse, therefore there should be 4 gospels. How idiotic.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(October 20, 2018 at 4:58 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(October 20, 2018 at 2:27 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Forget not that lo, in the eyes of the lord, Lot's wife was expendable, and his daughters could serve as rightful surrogates to bear his progeny. 

Cos he was righteous, right? we know this because he was saved from oblivion because the bible says so.

Wanna buy a bridge? Fucking your kids is moral in Bibleworld TM.

My youngest has the most understated way of dealing with this crap. She will mutter "Well that's a load of <bleep>". At 13. I am kinda proud of that as a father.

My ex is a church going catholic. There was a revolution whereby they both said "go fuck right off" and Sunday Mass is no longer compulsory. And It goes further. Now Sunday Mass is no longer compulsary for the Ex.

Anything to say, CDF?

Why did you quote me?

Vicarious quote, sorry.
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Oh fuck. I read page 1 and then hit (last post).
I've time traveled 549 pages into the future.

When you realize that nature is amazingly awesome and you understand that nothing is holding it's hand, you begin to truly appreciate what nature alone has accomplished.

Nature is the base that is required before any intelligent agent can exist.
Any intelligent agent is brought to light within the confines of nature.

Evolution is a slow process and DNA is isn't really all that massive on an information level. You could fit all the information from a human genome on a basic music CD from twenty years ago. (< 900 mb)

Today we have micro SD cards that can hold 2 TB.
That would be all the DNA information for over 2000 people on a card the size of your finger nail.

Complexity doesn't require an intelligent agent to build it. No one builds a hurricane.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(October 20, 2018 at 6:31 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(October 20, 2018 at 6:24 pm)Kit Wrote: I honestly cannot remember the specifics of me being banned from TTA.  It was a long time ago.

Oh, OK.  Yeah, I'm done with that place.

You wouldn't be able to get a sock onto The Thinking Atheist Forum.

(October 21, 2018 at 3:09 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(October 20, 2018 at 4:58 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Why did you quote me?

Vicarious quote, sorry.

C'est la vie. Great
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Poster CDF47 is a typical indoctrinated theist. His behavior includes incessant use of the mere assertion fallacy, frequent use of many other fallacies, repeating lies and mispresentations, ignoring facts and logical arguments which refute his beliefs and constant display of intellectual dishonesty and willful ignorance. His addiction to the Discovery Institute's pseudoscience about information is particularly telling because it demonstrates he avoids the actual related science dealing with information. Of course, his creationist masters at the Discovery Institute do this too and exhibit the same overall behaviors.
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
I tried to argue with my 7 year old niece last night who kept saying that the sun and sun down were two different things.

She wouldn't accept that it was the Sun that was going down. She saw the two events of a normal sun shining overhead and the Sun about to set as two separate things, not as one thing seen from different points of view.

It's going to be a rough day when I explain that humans are indeed animals and that one day an alien will implant it's egg in her stomach and she'll be pregnant.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Let kids be kids, why the heck are you arguing with a 7 year old???
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(October 21, 2018 at 2:08 pm)Rahn127 Wrote: I tried to argue with my 7 year old niece last night who kept saying that the sun and sun down were two different things.

She wouldn't accept that it was the Sun that was going down. She saw the two events of a normal sun shining overhead and the Sun about to set as two separate things, not as one thing seen from different points of view.

It's going to be a rough day when I explain that humans are indeed animals and that one day an alien will implant it's egg in her stomach and she'll be pregnant.

She's actually correct. 
The sun stays put, shining in place. 
The Earth rotates and creates the appearance of "sun down". 
Hmph
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(October 21, 2018 at 3:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Let kids be kids, why the heck are you arguing with a 7 year old???

Because when you let them believe things that aren't true, it can lead to religion. And we really don't want that now do we.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(October 21, 2018 at 9:33 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(October 20, 2018 at 6:31 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Oh, OK.  Yeah, I'm done with that place.

You wouldn't be able to get a sock onto The Thinking Atheist Forum.

(October 21, 2018 at 3:09 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Vicarious quote, sorry.

C'est la vie.  Great

I wouldn't want to get anything onto TTA.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Spontaneous assembly of DNA from precursor molecules prior to life. Anomalocaris 4 1309 April 4, 2019 at 6:12 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Music and DNA tahaadi 4 1716 September 29, 2018 at 4:35 am
Last Post: Pat Mustard
  Dr. Long proves life after death or no? Manga 27 8582 April 27, 2017 at 4:59 pm
Last Post: Amarok
  "DNA Labelling!" aka American Idiots Davka 28 8836 February 4, 2015 at 1:45 am
Last Post: Aractus
  A new atheist's theories on meta-like physical existence freedeepthink 14 4471 October 1, 2014 at 1:35 am
Last Post: freedeepthink
  Do the multiverse theories prove the existence of... Mudhammam 3 2427 January 12, 2014 at 12:03 pm
Last Post: Esquilax
  Yeti DNA sequenced Doubting Thomas 2 1630 October 17, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  Science Proves God Pahu 3 2194 August 2, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Last Post: Jackalope
  New Human DNA Strain Detected Minimalist 10 5557 July 27, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Last Post: popeyespappy
  Junk DNA and creationism little_monkey 0 2127 December 3, 2011 at 9:23 am
Last Post: little_monkey



Users browsing this thread: 37 Guest(s)