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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 30, 2018 at 1:54 am
(October 30, 2018 at 1:52 am)possibletarian Wrote: (October 29, 2018 at 8:28 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It's all true. There just are parables and symbols in some of the text.
So how do you tell the difference between something that happened, and something that is a symbol or parable ?
By knowing what a parable is and what symbolic language sounds like. This is not the only book with parables and symbols but it is the best one.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 30, 2018 at 4:23 am
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(October 30, 2018 at 1:51 am)CDF47 Wrote: Other civilizations have massive flood stories. Christianity is not the only one.
And the reason for that is: Flooding happened locally, and either A) these stories derive from actual events, on a local level ("The valley flooded one time") and then became blown up in a story telling manner. or B) it's all made up, because stories of the time of these civilizations/religions, Flooding was an event that people knew about and could tell stories about. Like how hollywood now will tell many different stories of Alien Invasion.......the idea is "Aliens came" and they tell 100 thousand different stories based on that, so flooding/fires/earthquakes are the subject to a lot of ancient stories
Back then "flooding" was a real problem, but the ENTIRE WORLD was not flooded. We have evidence to prove that. Localized flooding, which was then blown up via story telling, most likely. The entire planet covered in water? Don't be fucking ludicrous.
(October 29, 2018 at 3:16 pm)Wololo Wrote:
(October 29, 2018 at 11:47 am)OakTree500 Wrote: Astreja, I've never thought of it in this way before
I mean, I know the flood is bullshit on the idea of "the entire world flooded" but to really breakdown why it would pretty much fail, from a construction basis, is another level of logic I hadn't entertained
You should see some of the conjectures they use to explain where the water went. NSFW kind of
YES, I have actually seen this before, it's fucking mental
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 30, 2018 at 7:30 am
(October 29, 2018 at 8:28 pm)CDF47 Wrote: By the way, thanks again to the moderators for allowing me to speak in this forum! I was banned from another atheist forum in the past so it is good to be allowed to discuss these things with atheists here.
You're preaching, not discussing.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 30, 2018 at 9:03 am
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(October 30, 2018 at 1:51 am)CDF47 Wrote: (October 29, 2018 at 9:26 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: There was not.
There is not a shred of evidence there ever was a flood which wiped out virtually all of humanity.
It's nothing but delusional crap.
Asserting falsehoods does not make them true.
There is no massive silt layer. All floods have silt layers. Not even a relatively small silt layer exists common to the Near East.
The interesting thing about this, is the extent of "compartmentalization" necessary for fundy believers to buy into this shit.
Other civilizations have massive flood stories. Christianity is not the only one.
Christianity has no flood story. The myth of a large flood was common in the ancient Near East. The one in the Bible was copied from the Gilgamesh Epic.
There fact there are flood stories in no way means they had any way of knowing anything other than their locality.
There is NO evidence of a massive flood. None.There is no evidence most of humanity EVER was wiped out. The genetic diversity observed today took hundreds of thousands of years to develop, and remains intact.
The fact you keep repeating this childish nonsense WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE demonstrates you have nothing to back up your wishy-washy changing statements about a flood.
Repeating a lie does not make a lie true. There are all sorts of commonalities in ancients myths. They remain myths.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 30, 2018 at 9:37 am
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(October 30, 2018 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (October 29, 2018 at 8:28 pm)CDF47 Wrote: By the way, thanks again to the moderators for allowing me to speak in this forum! I was banned from another atheist forum in the past so it is good to be allowed to discuss these things with atheists here.
You're preaching, not discussing.
I am being asked religious questions. I am not preaching.
(October 30, 2018 at 9:03 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: (October 30, 2018 at 1:51 am)CDF47 Wrote: Other civilizations have massive flood stories. Christianity is not the only one.
Christianity has no flood story. The myth of a large flood was common in the ancient Near East. The one in the Bible was copied from the Gilgamesh Epic.
There fact there are flood stories in no way means they had any way of knowing anything other than their locality.
There is NO evidence of a massive flood. None.There is no evidence most of humanity EVER was wiped out. The genetic diversity observed today took hundreds of thousands of years to develop, and remains intact.
The fact you keep repeating this childish nonsense WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE demonstrates you have nothing to back up your wishy-washy changing statements about a flood.
Repeating a lie does not make a lie true. There are all sorts of commonalities in ancients myths. They remain myths.
There was a flood by God. The magnitude of such a flood, only He knows. It was a massive flood as described in Scripture.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 30, 2018 at 9:52 am
Another reason for global flood relief is fossils. It's not unusual to find fossils of aquatic animals up in the mountains. If you don't know what a fossil is or how mountains form, the idea that the ocean was once as high as the mountains can seem to be a plausible hypothesis.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 30, 2018 at 9:55 am
(October 30, 2018 at 9:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: (October 30, 2018 at 7:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You're preaching, not discussing.
I am being asked religious questions. I am not preaching.
Then answer the questions without the preaching.
(October 30, 2018 at 9:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: (October 30, 2018 at 9:03 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Christianity has no flood story. The myth of a large flood was common in the ancient Near East. The one in the Bible was copied from the Gilgamesh Epic.
There fact there are flood stories in no way means they had any way of knowing anything other than their locality.
There is NO evidence of a massive flood. None.There is no evidence most of humanity EVER was wiped out. The genetic diversity observed today took hundreds of thousands of years to develop, and remains intact.
The fact you keep repeating this childish nonsense WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE demonstrates you have nothing to back up your wishy-washy changing statements about a flood.
Repeating a lie does not make a lie true. There are all sorts of commonalities in ancients myths. They remain myths.
There was a flood by God. The magnitude of such a flood, only He knows. It was a massive flood as described in Scripture. Liar.
Your god is so ineffectual he couldn't flood his own bathroom.
He can't know anything since he is imaginary.
As described in "scripture" (aka the holey babble) it is nonsense.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 30, 2018 at 10:51 am
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2018 at 10:59 am by possibletarian.)
(October 30, 2018 at 1:54 am)CDF47 Wrote: (October 30, 2018 at 1:52 am)possibletarian Wrote: So how do you tell the difference between something that happened, and something that is a symbol or parable ?
By knowing what a parable is and what symbolic language sounds like. This is not the only book with parables and symbols but it is the best one.
Excellent, explain this method to me, let's concentrate on what people believe happened, for instance Jesus walking on water, how do we decide if this is true or not ?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 30, 2018 at 12:18 pm
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Quote:There was a flood by God. The magnitude of such a flood, only He knows. It was a massive flood as described in Scripture.
Assertion, no evidence.
Argument by simple assertion ... fallacy.
The moon is made of green cheese.
That assertion has the same weight as yours.
Please grow up.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 30, 2018 at 1:22 pm
(October 30, 2018 at 9:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: I am being asked religious questions. I am not preaching.
Was the first question "Can you start a bunch of preaching threads?"
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