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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 11, 2018 at 6:20 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(November 11, 2018 at 6:16 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: No it doesn't. 
"Fast radio bursts were first discovered in 2007, and scientists have been trying to ascertain their origin and cause ever since.

There are currently 18 known FRBs, but they were all detected by non-specialist radio telescopes that were unable to narrow down their origin to a precise location, according to researchers at McGill University."

Scientists discover all kinds of things they never detected before. It's a RADIO(range) signal. 
That's hardly anything new. You know what a radio is ? 

Wow. Just wow. 
Did you take high shcool science ?

Quote:While these are the most common explanations for FRBs, Bryan Butler of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory pointed out that they may not apply to this particular signal.

"We do have to keep in mind that this FRB is the only one known to repeat, so it may be physically different from the others," he said in a statement.

And yes, I took science classes in high school.  Did you take English in high school?

This is Everena. You were replying to a fellow atheist, not to me.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 11, 2018 at 6:23 pm)Everena Wrote: So two differences, one known and one not yet known- It is the only one known to repeat is the first difference and it may be physically different is the possible second difference. 

Unbelievable ... so fucking what ? They labeled it a RADIO burst. Since when is "may" your standard ? 
Two "mays" ... I'll wait until they figure it out. 

Extra-galactic signals are common-place.  
You think it's a god talking ? 
The POINT is, you have no POINT. 
There is no POINT to even quote this artice ... it demonstrates NOTHING relevant.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 11, 2018 at 6:25 pm)Kit Wrote:
(November 11, 2018 at 6:23 pm)Everena Wrote: Wow, just wow- here is the last sentence of the article "We do have to keep in mind that this FRB is the only one known to repeat, so it may be physically different from the others," he said in a statement.   

So two differences, one known and one not yet known- It is the only one known to repeat is the first difference and it may be physically different is the possible second difference. 

May be different.

Yet again, theists proving they lack reading comprehension skills.

Wrong, you lack reading comprehension skills. The known difference is that it is the only to repeat.  What may be true is that it is physically different.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:And yes, I took science classes in high school.  Did you take English in high school?

Sorry I screwed up the quote.
This forum is very non-user friendly ... especially the quote function.

(November 11, 2018 at 6:29 pm)Everena Wrote:
(November 11, 2018 at 6:25 pm)Kit Wrote: May be different.

Yet again, theists proving they lack reading comprehension skills.

Wrong, you lack reading comprehension skills. The known difference is that it is the only to repeat.  What may be true is that it is physically different.

Nope. Energy in the radio range is not "different" .... and even IF it were, so what ?
"radio waves: Designates a portion of the electromagnetic spectrum having frequencies ranging from 300 GHz to 3 kHz, or equivalently, wavelengths from 1 millimeter to 100 kilometers."

Maybe it's a Jebus fart ?
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 11, 2018 at 6:28 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(November 11, 2018 at 6:23 pm)Everena Wrote: So two differences, one known and one not yet known- It is the only one known to repeat is the first difference and it may be physically different is the possible second difference. 

Unbelievable ... so fucking what ? They labeled it a RADIO burst. Since when is "may" your standard ? 
Two "mays" ... I'll wait until they figure it out. 

Extra-galactic signals are common-place.  
You think it's a god talking ? 
The POINT is, you have no POINT. 
There is no POINT to even quote this artice ... it demonstrates NOTHING relevant.

Wrong again. It is the only one known to repeat. That is not a "may", that is the whole reason the article was written.  What he said is that it "may" be physically different. Learn to read.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 11, 2018 at 3:35 pm)Everena Wrote:
(November 11, 2018 at 8:50 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Subtract from that rape, genocide, disease, poverty, widespread ignorance, religious figures who molest children, and you end up with a wash.

Note: I don't normally argue "the problem of evil" unless someone comes at me with "the solution of good." Your argument fails. Try again.

I think hell is happening right here, right now, right before our very eyes. All it takes is observing and examining what is happening in the world. All around us people are celebrating and joyous. All around us people are doing kind and wonderful things. All around us people are suffering and in pain, and all around us people are doing horrifying, terrible things. Additionally, priests and nuns and monks take a lifetime vow of celibacy after claiming to have heard a "calling' and we spay and neuter pets and put animals in cages.

"Neither the religious man nor the secularist can explain, that is justify, such suffering ... but only the religious man needs to do so. The secularist understands that suffering is not something to be justified but simply to be struggled against with courage and dignity."
--Kai Nielson

But you missed my overall point before. The only reason I brought up suffering was to counter your argument that the joy and beauty in life indicates a designer.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 11, 2018 at 6:35 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(November 11, 2018 at 3:35 pm)Everena Wrote: I think hell is happening right here, right now, right before our very eyes. All it takes is observing and examining what is happening in the world. All around us people are celebrating and joyous. All around us people are doing kind and wonderful things. All around us people are suffering and in pain, and all around us people are doing horrifying, terrible things. Additionally, priests and nuns and monks take a lifetime vow of celibacy after claiming to have heard a "calling' and we spay and neuter pets and put animals in cages.

"Neither the religious man nor the secularist can explain, that is justify, such suffering ... but only the religious man needs to do so. The secularist understands that suffering is not something to be justified but simply to be struggled against with courage and dignity."
--Kai Nielson

But you missed my overall point before. The only reason I brought up suffering was to counter your argument that the joy and beauty in life indicates a designer.
Be that as it may, my beliefs are the only ones that would make this a fair and just universe and I refuse to believe that I live in a cruel unfair universe.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 11, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Everena Wrote:
(November 11, 2018 at 6:35 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: "Neither the religious man nor the secularist can explain, that is justify, such suffering ... but only the religious man needs to do so. The secularist understands that suffering is not something to be justified but simply to be struggled against with courage and dignity."
--Kai Nielson

But you missed my overall point before. The only reason I brought up suffering was to counter your argument that the joy and beauty in life indicates a designer.
Be that as it may, my beliefs are the only ones that would make this a fair and just universe and I refuse to believe that I live in a cruel unfair universe.

Are you at all comfortable with the reality that you live in a pitilessly indifferent universe?

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 11, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Everena Wrote: Be that as it may, my beliefs are the only ones that would make this a fair and just universe and I refuse to believe that I live in a cruel unfair universe.

We already know it is not ... and you don't get to make up shit to make yourself feel all nice. 
Get over it. There is no Santa Claus. 

So you admit your beliefs are based on an emotional need. 
Actually the universe could easily be "fair' from many perspectives, without the nonsense of belief. 

There is no way a 6 year old, dying of cancer can see anything fair, in any direction, about the universe AND your gods are of no help. 
You live in a "happy bubble". Time to get out more.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 11, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Everena Wrote: Be that as it may, my beliefs are the only ones that would make this a fair and just universe and I refuse to believe that I live in a cruel unfair universe.

Refusing to believe in a godless universe doesn't make it untrue. Cool
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