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RE: #MeTooFar
December 3, 2018 at 5:12 pm
Yall have had this song stuck in my head all day.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: #MeTooFar
December 3, 2018 at 5:20 pm
I think this is just part of social evolution.
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RE: #MeTooFar
December 3, 2018 at 5:29 pm
It's too bad, really. I think it paints women as weak.
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RE: #MeTooFar
December 3, 2018 at 5:34 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 5:29 pm)Shell B Wrote: It's too bad, really. I think it paints women as weak.
I think it just makes people think about this sort of cultural thing. No more, no less.
I also think that instead of being silent, this sort of cultural awareness gives women a louder voice in the long run. So basically the opposite of weak. Is it weak to be offended by something?
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RE: #MeTooFar
December 3, 2018 at 6:09 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 5:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: Not always. It depends on how drunk you are, and the situation, but I still think it's pretty obvious. Most of the time, the consent is at least implied before the drinking. However, if you approach some fall-down drunk chick on the street and talk her into your van, it's clearer.
I'm not sure. I'd have to check with a lawyer, but I suspect I'm on solid ground on this. Not that I doubt you, but I do. Do you have a source I can refer to?
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RE: #MeTooFar
December 3, 2018 at 7:23 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 4:23 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: No, but drunk reflects a compromised ability to consent.
I agree, I have been seduced by women I wouldn't normally bed, whilst intoxicated.
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RE: #MeTooFar
December 3, 2018 at 7:26 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 6:09 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (December 3, 2018 at 5:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: Not always. It depends on how drunk you are, and the situation, but I still think it's pretty obvious. Most of the time, the consent is at least implied before the drinking. However, if you approach some fall-down drunk chick on the street and talk her into your van, it's clearer.
I'm not sure. I'd have to check with a lawyer, but I suspect I'm on solid ground on this. Not that I doubt you, but I do. Do you have a source I can refer to?
I’m speaking generally, but I’m positive fucking someone who is drunk and consents is not rape.
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RE: #MeTooFar
December 3, 2018 at 7:27 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 7:23 pm)Little lunch Wrote: (December 3, 2018 at 4:23 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: No, but drunk reflects a compromised ability to consent.
I agree, I have been seduced by women I wouldn't normally bed, whilst intoxicated.
That doesn’t mean you didn’t consent. It means you’re u willingly consumed a substance that lowers your inhibitions to enjoy that effect.
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RE: #MeTooFar
December 3, 2018 at 7:37 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2018 at 7:39 pm by Angrboda.)
(December 3, 2018 at 7:26 pm)Shell B Wrote: (December 3, 2018 at 6:09 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I'm not sure. I'd have to check with a lawyer, but I suspect I'm on solid ground on this. Not that I doubt you, but I do. Do you have a source I can refer to?
I’m speaking generally, but I’m positive fucking someone who is drunk and consents is not rape.
Quote:Myth: If the assailant, victim, or both are under the influence of drugs or alcohol, the victim is free to consent to sex and the assailant therefore cannot be charged with rape.
Fact: When intoxicated, an individual cannot legally consent to sexual activity. Forcing sex on someone who is too drunk to give consent is still Criminal Sexual Conduct in the Third Degree. Rape is a serious offense, and people who commit crimes while under the influence of alcohol or drugs are not considered free from guilt.
Myths and Facts About Sexual Assault and Consent
Quote:Specifically related to the issues of intoxication, it should be noted that if a person is unconscious or their judgment is impaired by alcohol or drugs, legally they are unable to give consent.
Men Against Abuse Now | Alcohol and Consent
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RE: #MeTooFar
December 3, 2018 at 8:18 pm
Quote:It's too bad, really. I think it paints women as weak.
No it doesn't their is nothing weak about it nor is it weak when it happens to men
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