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WW2 Tanks.... A question....
#81
RE: WW2 Tanks.... A question....
Hetzer gonna hetz. Look how tiny it is next to those motorbikes, yet it still has the powerful 75mm.

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Hetzer next to Stug III.

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(December 4, 2018 at 12:22 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Recovery vehicle on our left in bottom photo?

Cant remember tbh. Blush
Prolly this? Looks like a converted halftrack. Maybe for engine change? (foreground 155m SFH18)
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#82
RE: WW2 Tanks.... A question....
Quote:Infantrymen who fights tanks from the front probably can’t be said to be experienced.

If you're holding a position and the tanks are coming at you the choices are limited.  It isn't like the movies where the panzergrenadiers just stand there and get mowed down for the cameras.
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#83
RE: WW2 Tanks.... A question....
(December 4, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Infantrymen who fights tanks from the front probably can’t be said to be experienced.

If you're holding a position and the tanks are coming at you the choices are limited.  It isn't like the movies where the panzergrenadiers just stand there and get mowed down for the cameras.

Later even US infantrymen learned to hanker down, use indirect fire to separate the tanks’ covering infantry from the leading rank of tanks, let the tanks roll over the defending infantry positions, then have the defending infantry pop up and hit the tanks from the side and the rear.
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#84
RE: WW2 Tanks.... A question....
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#85
RE: WW2 Tanks.... A question....
(December 4, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: [Image: 2a172f30ed39afb3d9a92a092dfe63dc.png]
Versatile
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#86
RE: WW2 Tanks.... A question....
(December 4, 2018 at 12:09 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 12:01 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Best bush is ambush.


Shaved or unshaven?

Always unshaven.  No matter what it is you want to do with it, a bushy bush is best bush...but..fellas, don't ambush the bush, the bush is your friend. It gave you life and it will save your life..and, if you're lucky, you'll die surrounded by the bush.

(if you plan on making the bush your home..it's okay to trim the bush, gotta have room to manouver under and through the bush, so you can reach your hole.)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#87
RE: WW2 Tanks.... A question....
(December 4, 2018 at 12:55 pm)Amarok Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: [Image: 2a172f30ed39afb3d9a92a092dfe63dc.png]
Versatile
Definitely a classy chassis.
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#88
RE: WW2 Tanks.... A question....
(December 4, 2018 at 12:39 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If you're holding a position and the tanks are coming at you the choices are limited.  It isn't like the movies where the panzergrenadiers just stand there and get mowed down for the cameras.

Later even US infantrymen learned to hanker down, use indirect fire to separate the tanks’ covering infantry from the leading rank of tanks, let the tanks roll over the defending infantry positions, then have the defending infantry pop up and hit the tanks from the side and the rear.

We were probably on the receiving end of that far more often in 1944.  The Germans did precious little attacking on the Western Front.
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#89
RE: WW2 Tanks.... A question....
That's true, most of the engagements that AT infantry would have had were deep insertion, the principle remaining the same.  Ingress, concealment, and in situ ambush in support of the forward elements to the rear. Our tanks actually did very little of the anti tank work.

(less than 20%? somebody who knows the numbers or an exact source can correct, lol)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#90
RE: WW2 Tanks.... A question....
(December 4, 2018 at 12:39 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(December 4, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If you're holding a position and the tanks are coming at you the choices are limited.  It isn't like the movies where the panzergrenadiers just stand there and get mowed down for the cameras.

Later even US infantrymen learned to hanker down, use indirect fire to separate the tanks’ covering infantry from the leading rank of tanks, let the tanks roll over the defending infantry positions, then have the defending infantry pop up and hit the tanks from the side and the rear.

"hunker". Hanker is what you do when you see Ms. Gadot. Hehe

(December 4, 2018 at 2:01 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: That's true, most of the engagements that AT infantry would have had were deep insertion, the principle remaining the same.  Ingress, concealment, and in situ ambush in support of the forward elements to the rear.  Our tanks actually did very little of the anti tank work.

(less than 20%?  somebody who knows the numbers or an exact source can correct, lol)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_warfare

You won't get an exact count because a bazooka team, an AT gun and a TD will all claim a tank that just blew up.
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