When America will come back for the rest of the middle east

[frankiej]

It's really no surprise that you compare me to "islamist extremists", which show how well you've been brainwashed about the current public enemy.
I'm sure if it were like 30 years back, you'd probably say, hey, this man is talking like a communist(even though I'm staunchly anti-communist), it is a mentality like this that develops in communism, and whatever you said in the rest of your post, as communism was the public enemy of that time.

No, I used extremist Muslims as an example as it is easily related to in today's world. I was simply using it as an example of people who blame the people when they are not to blame. That isn't the way of doing things, it is very wrong.

Btw, I am not American... I doubt I will ever have had a major problem with communists. I like the ideals behind communism, it unfortunately just doesn't work.

[5thHorseman]

I like the ideals behind communism, it unfortunately just doesn't work.

There has never been a genuine communist state. There has been partial communism with fuck off massive twists like leninism, but never a true communist state.

So we don't know if it would work, people just hate it because they think capitalism is so fucking great and look at it now. It doesn't work so well either.

[frankiej]

Capitalism can get to fuck.

With the greed of man, communism won't work.

People get off on power.

It is very unfortunate.

[5thHorseman]

Capitalism can get to fuck.

That's how to type in scottish.

[frankiej]

I shall correct it to proper scottish.

"You rich cunts can get tae fuck, man."

[5thHorseman]

i do hate posh scottish.

[kılıç_mehmet]

It's really no surprise that you compare me to "islamist extremists", which show how well you've been brainwashed about the current public enemy.
I'm sure if it were like 30 years back, you'd probably say, hey, this man is talking like a communist(even though I'm staunchly anti-communist), it is a mentality like this that develops in communism, and whatever you said in the rest of your post, as communism was the public enemy of that time.

No, I used extremist Muslims as an example as it is easily related to in today's world. I was simply using it as an example of people who blame the people when they are not to blame. That isn't the way of doing things, it is very wrong.

Btw, I am not American... I doubt I will ever have had a major problem with communists. I like the ideals behind communism, it unfortunately just doesn't work.

Besides, there are a lot of better examples to show how it relates in today's world. Let's take the USA as an example, who have passed legislations and acts relating to "terrorism" that allowed them to monitor anyone with a remotely arab or muslim sounding names the very day they entered the country, along with subjecting them to search and interrogation before they let them inside of their borders.
Even though I prefer to distance myself from the arabs and persians, I could safely state that most of them are now burdened with their own troubles, as to give a damn about America. So am I, and my brothers in other Turkic countries.
You're not American, I know that already. But your country is a part of NATO, so, one of the countries that opposed communism, so was my country, a NATO country. I was too young to remember the cold war days, but I remember my grandfather screaming aloud in joy as he heard when that the communist regime collapsed.
As a Turkish saying states; when the wolf gets old, he becomes the laughing stock of the fox.

Capitalism can get to fuck.

With the greed of man, communism won't work.

People get off on power.

It is very unfortunate.

Well, I don't think that communism is needed for a welfare state. It simply takes all property away from the common man, and leaves him to the mercy of people such as Stalin.
Communism is the equal distribution of power, it's essentially a worker class dictatorship.

[frankiej]

Besides, there are a lot of better examples to show how it relates in today's world. Let's take the USA as an example, who have passed legislations and acts relating to "terrorism" that allowed them to monitor anyone with a remotely arab or muslim sounding names the very day they entered the country, along with subjecting them to search and interrogation before they let them inside of their borders.
Even though I prefer to distance myself from the arabs and persians, I could safely state that most of them are now burdened with their own troubles, as to give a damn about America. So am I, and my brothers in other Turkic countries.
You're not American, I know that already. But your country is a part of NATO, so, one of the countries that opposed communism, so was my country, a NATO country. I was too young to remember the cold war days, but I remember my grandfather screaming aloud in joy as he heard when that the communist regime collapsed.
As a Turkish saying states; when the wolf gets old, he becomes the laughing stock of the fox.

I am not agreeing with what America has done in the past, but I am standing up against ignorance.

And just because I was born and reside in this country does not mean I agree with or am responsible for my government. I didn't vote them in... I hate them with a passion.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Besides, there are a lot of better examples to show how it relates in today's world. Let's take the USA as an example, who have passed legislations and acts relating to "terrorism" that allowed them to monitor anyone with a remotely arab or muslim sounding names the very day they entered the country, along with subjecting them to search and interrogation before they let them inside of their borders.
Even though I prefer to distance myself from the arabs and persians, I could safely state that most of them are now burdened with their own troubles, as to give a damn about America. So am I, and my brothers in other Turkic countries.
You're not American, I know that already. But your country is a part of NATO, so, one of the countries that opposed communism, so was my country, a NATO country. I was too young to remember the cold war days, but I remember my grandfather screaming aloud in joy as he heard when that the communist regime collapsed.
As a Turkish saying states; when the wolf gets old, he becomes the laughing stock of the fox.

I am not agreeing with what America has done in the past, but I am standing up against ignorance.

And just because I was born and reside in this country does not mean I agree with or am responsible for my government. I didn't vote them in... I hate them with a passion.

I too, am against ignorance.
I too, hate the government that rules my country, not because I didn't vote for them, because they try to destroy everything that I, and our forefathers stood for.

[frankiej]

I couldn't give a toss about what people before me stood for. I care for my own values and beliefs.
I know that generations before me were quite ignorant to a lot of things. We are in a privileged position of having science, reason and equality being encouraged... We would be mad not to try to change things.

Those afraid of change are being naive... Change must happen for things to progress and for society to survive... Society must evolve.