The Adam & Eve Myth - Origins

[Brian37]

Which STILL doesn't alter the fact that your personal anecdotes are not proof of anything.

Test-I-Mony moron Testimony! do you not understand what a testimony is? do you not know how eye witness account when compiled with 2.2 billion other similar accounts by defination is "proof."

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1. a formal written or spoken statement, especially one given in a court of law.
   synonyms:
   evidence, sworn statement, attestation, affidavit; More
   
   
   
   
   
   
   • evidence or proof provided by the existence or appearance of something.
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   • a public recounting of a religious conversion or experience.
     

Um no.  

The ability to regurgitate old mythology only proves you repeat what you are sold.

Hindu's will "testify" to the "truth" of Brahma and Vishnu. Muslims will "testify" to the "truth" of Allah.

And I cannot begin to tell you how many si fi fans will "testify" the "truth" that Gene Roddenberry invented the modern cell phone.

You know what claims are like. Everyone has one.

And if "testimony" were always "fact" in real courts there would be no need for perjury laws.

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And in real courts, if is proven that even if the witness truly believes what they think they saw, it can be dead wrong at the same time.

The ability to make claims is nothing. Someone can truly believe what they claim, and be dead wrong at the same time.

[Drich]

maybe not in your imaginary world, but here in C-137 ( I know pre2013  it references a DC-3, but here it references a rick and morty joke for you old people) Eye witness testimony is strong enough to sentence a man to death. personal testimony about a business or a restaurant can literally be the sole determination if it is successful or fails (ever hear of Yelp/It's another not old person thing look it up.) 

maybe where you are from (the universe where people have hamsters driving them through their asses)  when people (Say 2.2 billion ie the christian population of the world,) tell you there is a guy giving out 100 dollar bills on the corner of X and 3rd at 3:00PM every day if you compliment his hat. the LOGICAL thing to do is go and see for yourself and approach this guy on his terms and not through some stupid scientific method designed to fail as it is not following the prescription the man handing our the money demands!

Ask anyone on this forum, I'm actually giving out 5 to 50,000$.  Would you like to meet me for it? (There is a time limit)

Some caveats; It has to be at 1am (Work schedule) and the location is 1130 E Canfield St, Detroit, MI 48207, Now you may run into some unsavory folks because it was voted the worst neighborhood in the city along with being riddled drugs, crime, and murders.

None of that should be an issue because, after all, A bunch of people on this forum told you that they know a forum member that knew a guy who heard someone got 50,000$ from me.

I open the floor to the forum to share their stories of how much money they really, totally, got from me.
Bless. RAmen

i don't get it.

Are you saying you are not real?

Are you saying you would not lie?

Are you saying you have 5-50k to hand out?

Are you trying to top shelf the hand out by putting people in danger/are you trying to keep from having to hand money out because the risk is too great?

Are you saying others on this board would dishonestly and blindly say they have been given money by you under those conditions?

Or are you trying to make a dumb person's "critical' comparison?

Or are you so stupid do you not understand you are only supporting my point? By mocking me you are helping to prove what I have to say! If i where a betting man I would say this one... you like to think yourself far more intelligent than what you are, so I would put my mortgage money on this, so smile big because here comes by boot... (I will be metaphorically kicking your teeth in now)

The proof is not in the testimony, (not the word of the person making the claim) but in the conditions you your self in this case provide. Meaning I  via your details can go when and where to find out for myself whether or not you are telling the truth, that I do not need other people to tell me what to think.. You are so indoctrinated into group think you failed to see the way I provide allows you to think and experience God for yourself... Rather you seek some professor's word to tell you it is ok to believe in God when I am trying to show you how and when to stand before him on your own!

Where you not so short sighted and sooooo egar to try and mount a defence, you would see that you played yourelf into suporting my statement.


So here is the problem with how you anti godist usually think.. no God= no proof of anything no way to test IE god is unfalsifiable therfor can not exist.

What I and my taco truck along with your money offer does, is show you how to test God or how to falisify a claim whether it be of God or of some douche not smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

What you did is foolish support my statement by providing a falsifiable scenario, which was implied by me, but you like a moron spelled it out for your 'brothers.'

[Brian37]

Ask anyone on this forum, I'm actually giving out 5 to 50,000$.  Would you like to meet me for it? (There is a time limit)

Some caveats; It has to be at 1am (Work schedule) and the location is 1130 E Canfield St, Detroit, MI 48207, Now you may run into some unsavory folks because it was voted the worst neighborhood in the city along with being riddled drugs, crime, and murders.

None of that should be an issue because, after all, A bunch of people on this forum told you that they know a forum member that knew a guy who heard someone got 50,000$ from me.

I open the floor to the forum to share their stories of how much money they really, totally, got from me.
Bless. RAmen

i don't get it.

Are you saying you are not real?

Are you saying you would not lie?

Are you saying you have 5-50k to hand out?

Are you trying to top shelf the hand out by putting people in danger/are you trying to keep from having to hand money out because the risk is too great?

Are you saying others on this board would dishonestly and blindly say they have been given money by you under those conditions?

Or are you trying to make a dumb person's "critical' comparison?

Or are you so stupid do you not understand you are only supporting my point? By mocking me you are helping to prove what I have to say! If i where a betting man I would say this one... you like to think yourself far more intelligent than what you are, so I would put my mortgage money on this, so smile big because here comes by boot... (I will be metaphorically kicking your teeth in now)

The proof is not in the testimony, (not the word of the person making the claim) but in the conditions you your self in this case provide. Meaning I  via your details can go when and where to find out for myself whether or not you are telling the truth, that I do not need other people to tell me what to think.. You are so indoctrinated into group think you failed to see the way I provide allows you to think and experience God for yourself... Rather you seek some professor's word to tell you it is ok to believe in God when I am trying to show you how and when to stand before him on your own!

Where you not so short sighted and sooooo egar to try and mount a defence, you would see that you played yourelf into suporting my statement.


So here is the problem with how you anti godist usually think.. no God= no proof of anything no way to test IE god is unfalsifiable therfor can not exist.

What I and my taco truck along with your money offer does, is show you how to test God or how to falisify a claim whether it be of God or of some douche not smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

What you did is foolish support my statement by providing a falsifiable scenario, which was implied by me, but you like a moron spelled it out for your 'brothers.'

We most certainly are real. What we are saying is  our modern understanding of reality is not explained by old mythology.

We can't dumb it down any further for you.

Yes, humans are capable of lying. And? There is no magic super villain causing humans to lie. Humans lie because we do sometimes. But we are also capable of stating facts. And not all lies are evil.

An "evil" lie would be what Hitler did in scapegoating Jews.

A good "lie" would be if a spousal abuser shows up to your house, and asks you if their partner is there and you protect them by saying, "No".

[Drich]

Um no.  

The ability to regurgitate old mythology only proves you repeat what you are sold.

Moron, these are my life experiences... nowhere in the bible are these experiences found in one place... nothing I lived through was matched or mirrored by anyone directly... so wft are you talking about??? oh, right you people are not smart enough to speak to specifics so you speak in gross generalities and assume all religion is alike. for instance:

Hindu's will "testify" to the "truth" of Brahma and Vishnu. Muslims will "testify" to the "truth" of Allah.

How exactly can they do this aside from blind faith moron? they can't extoll anything I have shared unless they themselves claim to be prophets like muhammad himself or some sort of liaison or emissary. Their own religion teaches this and also teaches to kill those who claim to be prophets as allaha is not taking on any new prophets (which a few hundred years after moham died he did and the religion split/or those where the false prophets alaha warned mo-ham about and they split the religion (depending on which sect you grew up in)

Do you see the problem here? you in your hate of God do not even know enough about the various religious basic to make an accurate comparison. you assume we are all the same when in fact only Christian puts people in direct contact with their God with no one in between to filter interprete or tell how to think.

And I cannot begin to tell you how many si fi fans will "testify" the "truth" that Gene Roddenberry invented the modern cell phone.

again dummy the point is falsifiable testimony. the fact that we can check that testimony is what makes it valuable. we can discern whether it is true or not by what is said. like wise we can test the testimonies of Christian and see if they are truthful or not!

You know what claims are like. Everyone has one.

a life story? yes and mine put me before God in such a way I can also tell you how o do the same.

And if "testimony" were always "fact" in real courts there would be no need for perjury laws.

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[/quote we don't need pre jury law. most of the time a tesimony will even cause a defendant to admit what he did and cop a plea.

[quote]And in real courts, if is proven that even if the witness truly believes what they think they saw, it can be dead wrong at the same time.

again moron it is the falsifiability that is important here. Ie yes one can be proven wrong. what about 2.2 billion?

The ability to make claims is nothing. Someone can truly believe what they claim, and be dead wrong at the same time.

again I made no claim. I shared a part of my life's story. you can believe it or not. the point being made is what God can do to help establish and maintain a open relationship with his people. meaning what I experienced is shared or can be by everyone here to one degree or another.

[Brian37]

i don't get it.

Are you saying you are not real?

Are you saying you would not lie?

Are you saying you have 5-50k to hand out?

Are you trying to top shelf the hand out by putting people in danger/are you trying to keep from having to hand money out because the risk is too great?

Are you saying others on this board would dishonestly and blindly say they have been given money by you under those conditions?

Or are you trying to make a dumb person's "critical' comparison?

Or are you so stupid do you not understand you are only supporting my point? By mocking me you are helping to prove what I have to say! If i where a betting man I would say this one... you like to think yourself far more intelligent than what you are, so I would put my mortgage money on this, so smile big because here comes by boot... (I will be metaphorically kicking your teeth in now)

The proof is not in the testimony, (not the word of the person making the claim) but in the conditions you your self in this case provide. Meaning I  via your details can go when and where to find out for myself whether or not you are telling the truth, that I do not need other people to tell me what to think.. You are so indoctrinated into group think you failed to see the way I provide allows you to think and experience God for yourself... Rather you seek some professor's word to tell you it is ok to believe in God when I am trying to show you how and when to stand before him on your own!

Where you not so short sighted and sooooo egar to try and mount a defence, you would see that you played yourelf into suporting my statement.


So here is the problem with how you anti godist usually think.. no God= no proof of anything no way to test IE god is unfalsifiable therfor can not exist.

What I and my taco truck along with your money offer does, is show you how to test God or how to falisify a claim whether it be of God or of some douche not smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

What you did is foolish support my statement by providing a falsifiable scenario, which was implied by me, but you like a moron spelled it out for your 'brothers.'

We most certainly are real. What we are saying is  our modern understanding of reality is not explained by old mythology.

We can't dumb it down any further for you.

Yes, humans are capable of lying. And? There is no magic super villain causing humans to lie. Humans lie because we do sometimes. But we are also capable of stating facts. And not all lies are evil.

An "evil" lie would be what Hitler did in scapegoating Jews. A good "lie" would be any WW2 German hiding Jews and lying to Nazis to protect them.

A good "lie" would be if a spousal abuser shows up to your house, and asks you if their partner is there and you protect them by saying, "No".

[Drich]

i don't get it.

Are you saying you are not real?

Are you saying you would not lie?

Are you saying you have 5-50k to hand out?

Are you trying to top shelf the hand out by putting people in danger/are you trying to keep from having to hand money out because the risk is too great?

Are you saying others on this board would dishonestly and blindly say they have been given money by you under those conditions?

Or are you trying to make a dumb person's "critical' comparison?

Or are you so stupid do you not understand you are only supporting my point? By mocking me you are helping to prove what I have to say! If i where a betting man I would say this one... you like to think yourself far more intelligent than what you are, so I would put my mortgage money on this, so smile big because here comes by boot... (I will be metaphorically kicking your teeth in now)

The proof is not in the testimony, (not the word of the person making the claim) but in the conditions you your self in this case provide. Meaning I  via your details can go when and where to find out for myself whether or not you are telling the truth, that I do not need other people to tell me what to think.. You are so indoctrinated into group think you failed to see the way I provide allows you to think and experience God for yourself... Rather you seek some professor's word to tell you it is ok to believe in God when I am trying to show you how and when to stand before him on your own!

Where you not so short sighted and sooooo egar to try and mount a defence, you would see that you played yourelf into suporting my statement.


So here is the problem with how you anti godist usually think.. no God= no proof of anything no way to test IE god is unfalsifiable therfor can not exist.

What I and my taco truck along with your money offer does, is show you how to test God or how to falisify a claim whether it be of God or of some douche not smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

What you did is foolish support my statement by providing a falsifiable scenario, which was implied by me, but you like a moron spelled it out for your 'brothers.'

We most certainly are real. What we are saying is  our modern understanding of reality is not explained by old mythology.

We can't dumb it down any further for you.

Yes, humans are capable of lying. And? There is no magic super villain causing humans to lie. Humans lie because we do sometimes. But we are also capable of stating facts. And not all lies are evil.

An "evil" lie would be what Hitler did in scapegoating Jews.

A good "lie" would be if a spousal abuser shows up to your house, and asks you if their partner is there and you protect them by saying, "No".

read what i said again (hint the first 7 lines are me being funny it is me pretending to be as stupid as you all think I am/giving you false hope, which you seem to have run away with ) start with line 8 my real thought start there..

[Nay_Sayer]

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i don't get it.

Are you saying you are not real?

Are you saying you would not lie?

Are you saying you have 5-50k to hand out?

Are you trying to top shelf the hand out by putting people in danger/are you trying to keep from having to hand money out because the risk is too great?

Are you saying others on this board would dishonestly and blindly say they have been given money by you under those conditions?

Or are you trying to make a dumb person's "critical' comparison?

Or are you so stupid do you not understand you are only supporting my point? By mocking me you are helping to prove what I have to say! If i where a betting man I would say this one... you like to think yourself far more intelligent than what you are, so I would put my mortgage money on this, so smile big because here comes by boot... (I will be metaphorically kicking your teeth in now)

The proof is not in the testimony, (not the word of the person making the claim) but in the conditions you your self in this case provide. Meaning I  via your details can go when and where to find out for myself whether or not you are telling the truth, that I do not need other people to tell me what to think.. You are so indoctrinated into group think you failed to see the way I provide allows you to think and experience God for yourself... Rather you seek some professor's word to tell you it is ok to believe in God when I am trying to show you how and when to stand before him on your own!

Where you not so short sighted and sooooo egar to try and mount a defence, you would see that you played yourelf into suporting my statement.


So here is the problem with how you anti godist usually think.. no God= no proof of anything no way to test IE god is unfalsifiable therfor can not exist.

What I and my taco truck along with your money offer does, is show you how to test God or how to falisify a claim whether it be of God or of some douche not smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

What you did is foolish support my statement by providing a falsifiable scenario, which was implied by me, but you like a moron spelled it out for your 'brothers.'

Is reading really that hard for you?  Yikes. 

That was just, a mess, I'll try again much much slower and I may use pictures.

I am handing out between 5$ and 50,000$ USD all you have to do is meet me at the address I gave at 1am. I then offered you to ask anyone on the forum about my offer because they all got money, 5 bucks mostly, BUT they can tell you a now deleted forum member made a thread where his buddy knew a guy who heard someone got the 50,000$.

I ask again, Can I expect to see you there, The time limit is 1 week. If not, Why not?


As for testing god I have tested FSM thoroughly and it has passed with flying colors while your imaginary false idol has remaind sad failure turtle.

Bless. RAmen

[Gwaithmir]

Which STILL doesn't alter the fact that your personal anecdotes are not proof of anything.

Test-I-Mony moron Testimony! do you not understand what a testimony is? do you not know how eye witness account when compiled with 2.2 billion other similar accounts by defination is "proof."

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1. a formal written or spoken statement, especially one given in a court of law.
   synonyms:
   evidence, sworn statement, attestation, affidavit; More
   
   
   
   
   
   
   • evidence or proof provided by the existence or appearance of something.
     "his blackened finger was testimony to the fact that he had played in pain"
     synonyms:
     testament, proof, evidence, attestation, witness; More
     
     
     
     
     
   • a public recounting of a religious conversion or experience.
     

Christians claim that the Bible is true and use it to claim that their doctrines are true. They claim that God divinely revealed its contents to Bronze Age characters and that the events therein really occurred. And yet, without supporting evidence, quotes from the Bible are mere claims, not truths. There is no more evidence of the Bible's veracity than The Lord of the Rings is evidence that Hobbits and Orcs exist.

[Haipule]

There are many Christians with many opposing "doctrines". The Word of God unites us as one. The "doctrines" of man divide us endlessly and that includes theology and "science". The ability to even begin to understand anything about zOE-life is a narrow path few find--according to Jesus.

[Gwaithmir]

There are many Christians with many opposing "doctrines". The Word of God unites us as one. The "doctrines" of man divide us endlessly and that includes theology and "science". The ability to even begin to understand anything about zOE-life is a narrow path few find--according to Jesus.

And why should I care what an illiterate, deluded Bronze Age preacher had to say?