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Where's the outrage?
#21
RE: Where's the outrage?
(August 7, 2019 at 5:37 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: The Dayton shooter is a Democrat.


Apparently he's a big fan of Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and antifa.....

Where's the outrage about their evil influence?


....

I'm gonna love the pretzel logic.....




Taking a page from the Republicans Fox News, we will first call this a “hoax” and his being fan of warren and sanders “fake news”.   Then, several years after you prove beyond all doubt that he is not an agent provocateur planted by the right wing to discredit warren and sanders, at explicit cost of human lives, we might expressed guarded mild disapprobation, but only if warren and sanders have already become president, threw the head of NRA and trump’s own ass in jail, gerrymandered  the Republican Party out of existence and expelled trump’s wife as an illegal alien.

I think that’s fair.

Until then, shut the fuck up and quit whining.
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#22
RE: Where's the outrage?
(August 8, 2019 at 9:08 am)Divinity Wrote: "I'm not a Republican!" says guy who can't respond to points and blindly defends Republicans and Trump while attacking Democrats.  

Bull-fucking-shit.  You're a Republican.  You just realize that you have to rebrand to be taken seriously by anyone with at least half a brain.

Digital idiocy.

The fun part - it was popularized by George W Bush (who I did NOT vote for) with his "If you're not with us, you're against us."

As far as " attacking Democrats" - you're kidding, right?

I'm an equal opportunity kind of guy.

I find ALL party loyalists to be blithering morons.
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#23
RE: Where's the outrage?
(August 8, 2019 at 11:33 am)1onlinebiker Wrote:
(August 8, 2019 at 9:08 am)Divinity Wrote: "I'm not a Republican!" says guy who can't respond to points and blindly defends Republicans and Trump while attacking Democrats.  

Bull-fucking-shit.  You're a Republican.  You just realize that you have to rebrand to be taken seriously by anyone with at least half a brain.

Digital idiocy.

The fun part - it was popularized by George W Bush (who I did NOT vote for) with his "If you're not with us, you're against us."

As far as " attacking Democrats" - you're kidding, right?

I'm an equal opportunity kind of guy.

I find ALL party loyalists to be blithering morons.


If you are mostly for them, you are against us.   Sound better?

Yes, If makes you sound so much less bad if you didn’t vote for Bush but defends the new Republican Party of racist ignoramus trump, which even bush deplored.
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#24
RE: Where's the outrage?
(August 8, 2019 at 11:33 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I find ALL party loyalists to be blithering morons.

I am a Democratic party loyalist because, so far, Republicans are dominated by climate change denialists. Until that changes, I would never even consider voting for Republicans.

So not exactly blithering, eh?
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#25
RE: Where's the outrage?
(August 8, 2019 at 11:52 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(August 8, 2019 at 11:33 am)1onlinebiker Wrote: Digital idiocy.

The fun part - it was popularized by George W Bush (who I did NOT vote for) with his "If you're not with us, you're against us."

As far as " attacking Democrats" - you're kidding, right?

I'm an equal opportunity kind of guy.

I find ALL party loyalists to be blithering morons.


If you are mostly for them, you are against us.   Sound better?

Yes, If makes you sound so much less bad if you didn’t vote for Bush but defends the new Republican Party of racist ignoramus trump, which even bush deplored.

You don't seem to understand.

I find both parties equally guilty - of pissing all over each other.

And both stick their noses up in the air and put in a smug air of superiority.


Me - I don't fit in either party - as I hold views that a party loyalist would find contrary - even though they are totally different subjects.

I.e. I am pro-gun and pro-choice (abortion). I am for wage equity for all, but against minimum wage.

(don't bother arguing those points here - they are simply examples and I won't argue them here)
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#26
RE: Where's the outrage?
(August 8, 2019 at 1:01 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You don't seem to understand.

I find both parties equally guilty - of pissing all over each other.

And both stick their noses up in the air and put in a smug air of superiority.


Me - I don't fit in either party - as I hold views that a party loyalist would find contrary - even though they are totally different subjects.

I.e. I am pro-gun and pro-choice (abortion). I am for wage equity for all, but against minimum wage.

(don't bother arguing those points here - they are simply examples and I won't argue them here)


I think what you are demonstrating here is that the parties have become more partisan and exclusionary than ever before. There is no room for debate and no room for differences of opinion. Anyone who is not ideologically pure is cast out as the "other". I never understood what abortion rights has to do with minimum wage, but apparently for some reason I do not understand, they are inextricably linked in our politics.
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#27
RE: Where's the outrage?
I wish the parties would actually become more partisan and exclusionary.

Dems keep chasing the mythical swing voter, and the reps have gone full on fourth Reich.

Maybe the dems should boot centrist fantasy peddlers( hey, maybe into their own party!), and as a country we can push the nazis into the sea?
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#28
RE: Where's the outrage?
(August 7, 2019 at 5:37 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: The Dayton shooter is a Democrat.


Apparently he's a big fan of Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and antifa.....

Where's the outrage about their evil influence?


....

I'm gonna love the pretzel logic.....

Well, bernie and warren are right wing in my book. What we call here the right wing is probably dubbed socialists over there, there is that.

Besides, the outrage is about the amount of mass shooters and easy access to guns. Ya know, to have a gun you should pay for it and undergo a series of trials, to be able to own it. Tha is what you are afraid of.

As to american politics. Not very different, with the exception that trum would never be elected here.
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#29
RE: Where's the outrage?
(August 7, 2019 at 5:37 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: The Dayton shooter is a Democrat.


Apparently he's a big fan of Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and antifa.....

Where's the outrage about their evil influence?


....

I'm gonna love the pretzel logic.....

I think it's a bit more complicated than, "Was the shooter a Democrat or a Republican?" The El Paso shooter made it clear in his manifesto that he was not a Democrat or a Republican, but his ideology aligned quite well with the contemporary xenophobia.

At a Trump rally in Florida this past May POTUS was talking about how to stop the influx of immigrants and a person in the crowd shouted that they could shoot them. The president's response? He laughed, and said "Only in the panhandle can you get away with that!"

Feel free to find a corresponding Elizabeth Warren rally to show that your comparison is just.
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#30
RE: Where's the outrage?
(August 8, 2019 at 1:11 pm)BryanS Wrote:
(August 8, 2019 at 1:01 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You don't seem to understand.

I find both parties equally guilty - of pissing all over each other.

And both stick their noses up in the air and put in a smug air of superiority.


Me - I don't fit in either party - as I hold views that a party loyalist would find contrary - even though they are totally different subjects.

I.e. I am pro-gun and pro-choice (abortion). I am for wage equity for all, but against minimum wage.

(don't bother arguing those points here - they are simply examples and I won't argue them here)


I think what you are demonstrating here is that the parties have become more partisan and exclusionary than ever before. There is no room for debate and no room for differences of opinion. Anyone who is not ideologically pure is cast out as the "other". I never understood what abortion rights has to do with minimum wage, but apparently for some reason I do not understand, they are inextricably linked in our politics.


Bullshit.

Only the movers and shakers of one party coined terms like "RINO" for republican in name only.   That was even before this party bent over, spread its cheek for an overt racist anti-science ignoramus.

(August 8, 2019 at 1:01 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(August 8, 2019 at 11:52 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: If you are mostly for them, you are against us.   Sound better?

Yes, If makes you sound so much less bad if you didn’t vote for Bush but defends the new Republican Party of racist ignoramus trump, which even bush deplored.

You don't seem to understand.

I find both parties equally guilty - of pissing all over each other.

And both stick their noses up in the air and put in a smug air of superiority.


Me - I don't fit in either party - as I hold views that a party loyalist would find contrary - even though they are totally different subjects.

I.e. I am pro-gun and pro-choice (abortion). I am for wage equity for all, but against minimum wage.

(don't bother arguing those points here - they are simply examples and I won't argue them here)

And you are wrong.

The party that did the assault, and the party assaulted, may both be covered in blood, they are not both guilty of assault.
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