Nine killed in Dayton, Ohio

[Gawdzilla Sama]

He has one box of arguments, and the contents are just shit he's heard/seen/read on NRA-TV. It's like the fundies who have one script and are pissed when we don't follow it.

[onlinebiker]

He has one box of arguments, and the contents are just shit he's heard/seen/read on NRA-TV. It's like the fundies who have one script and are pissed when we don't follow it.

Never have been a member of the NRA.

I'M sure you have seen more NRA-TV because I never heard of it.

I base my opinions mostly on things I have seen in real life - unlike you - who learned it all from comic books.

That's where you got your superhero complex.

[Brian37]

He has one box of arguments, and the contents are just shit he's heard/seen/read on NRA-TV. It's like the fundies who have one script and are pissed when we don't follow it.

Never have been a member of the NRA.

I'M sure you have seen more NRA-TV because I never heard of it.

I base my opinions mostly on things I have seen in real life - unlike you - who learned it all from comic books.

That's where you got your superhero complex.

You are not a member of the NRA? 

Then why the ever living fuck do you shit your pants when sane people say "Arm more" isn't working?

The way you shit your pants when when the sane object to the status quo you fill your diaper faster than Wayne La Pee Dip Shit.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

He has one box of arguments, and the contents are just shit he's heard/seen/read on NRA-TV. It's like the fundies who have one script and are pissed when we don't follow it.

Never have been a member of the NRA.

I'M sure you have seen more NRA-TV because I never heard of it.

I base my opinions mostly on things I have seen in real life - unlike you - who learned it all from comic books.

That's where you got your superhero complex.

So much bullshit from you. Your garden must be epic. Twenty foot tall carrot plants.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Just like there is no such thing as a "High capacity video game"

But the good news is that after the latest massacres, Walmart are removing the displays that depict violent video games.  This must be a tremendous source of relief to USians.  See, video games are what set off mass shootings.  This is why it is so rare for other countries to have mass shootings - they have no video games.

Boru

[Amarok]

Are you doing everything you can to get people to quit smoking? How about driving less? You giving out free condoms?

Those issues dwarf guns as a killer of people -- but they lack the impact (pun intended) of guns...

Pointing to other things that kill people does not mean one should address this thing .By the way we already have programs dealing with this .

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Never have been a member of the NRA.

I'M sure you have seen more NRA-TV because I never heard of it.

I base my opinions mostly on things I have seen in real life - unlike you - who learned it all from comic books.

That's where you got your superhero complex.

Yet you repeat their talking points

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Lol..

I find it funny you find gun owners fearful.

If shooting starts I'll be damned glad I have a gun on me. (I will probably wish i carried something bigger than the dinky .380 I have been carrying lately).

You are because think you'll be in that scenario 

You on the other hand will simply shit yourself.

Who' s afraid?

Nope I'm 99% certain you won't fire a single round and will shit yourself . I on the other hand am 99% confident i'll never be in scenario were a gun will be needed .

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You just figured it out? Your chances of being involved in a mass shooting are very close to nil.. YET you're all ready to ban guns because of your hysteria about mass shootings.

Actually it's not hysteria it's something on a whole different level then below 

I' m much more concerned with a couple of punks with knives deciding to carve me up in a parking lot - or some asshole road raging and deciding he needs to get out and beat somebody up.

Which while possible is still low and just proves are point .

I carry a gun for the same reason I wear a seatbelt - or a life jacket on a boat. I' m not afraid of crashing or sinking - but I am prepared should it happen.

Stupid comparison

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And I think you are free to make that assessment and be gun free.

You do it your way - I'll do it mine.

How about no

[EgoDeath]

How about we disagree with people based on the merit of their points rather than worrying about whose "talking points" they're "repeating?" And, also, how about we start quoting each other or mentioning one another, directly? It makes for more honest discussions.

You went out of your way to take OLB's name out of his quote, which just seems like you're trying to slip a response in without him noticing. Either way, it comes off as disingenuous.

@Amarok

Speaking of doing nothing for honest discussion, I love how the media is ignoring that the shooter in Dayton was a leftist who supported gun control. Interesting.

[Rev. Rye]

Just like there is no such thing as a "High capacity video game"

But the good news is that after the latest massacres, Walmart are removing the displays that depict violent video games.  This must be a tremendous source of relief to USians.  See, video games are what set off mass shootings.  This is why it is so rare for other countries to have mass shootings - they have no video games.

Boru

The countries with the most video game revenue per capita vs. their rate of violent gun deaths:


It's almost like there's other factors at play here. Like America having a shitton of guns, and a culture that stokes people's paranoia. Or that America's more or less a behavioral sink at this point.

[The Grand Nudger]

What media have you been looking at? If you took a uv lamp into a right wing newsroom you wouldn’t be able to see on account of the sheer white brilliance emanating from every corner. Nor, for that matter, is the leftosphere short on long form headslapping exposes on precisely why this is a steaming pile of duplicitous right wing shit.

So much for honest discussion, I guess.

[EgoDeath]

@Rev. Rye

I'm terribly skeptical of using Vox as a source for, well, anything. But the point remains valid.

Also, our issue goes much deeper than having "a "shitton of guns."

If you truly believe that simply having more guns will cause more shootings, you have little to no faith in humanity. Which is understandable, but if that's how you feel, what solutions does that leave us with that are actually viable? Take guns away? Hope that less guns equals less shootings? And then what? How do we address the deeper issue plaguing our country? Or do we even give a fuck? If we have such little faith in humans anyway, why even try?

I'm sorry, but this situation clearly goes far deeper than us just having "a shitton of guns." Sure, it's access to guns is a factor. But there are factors at play here that are arguably just as big.

edit: I'm no longer going to address anyone who doesn't have the balls to quote or mention me. If you care about discussion, that means you want me to see what you have to say, and vice-versa. Just a heads up for anyone who might care. If you're going to use that as an opportunity to get your last word in and run off, do as you see fit. Honest discussion requires honesty.