Funny that quote. From revelations, no less.
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In what way is the Resurrection the best explanation?
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(October 2, 2019 at 2:17 am)snowtracks Wrote: Atheists are being namby-pamby to death by allowing it to have the final say. “I do not fear death in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” (Mark Twain) “The world is so exquisite, with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there is little good evidence. Far better, it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful for every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.” (Carl Sagan) “It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying or reassuring.” (Carl Sagan)
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
(October 4, 2019 at 2:15 am)snowtracks Wrote: That makes the point: atheists do not stand up to death, they allow it to push them around.* You will rot or be burned. In two generations you will not be remembered, possibly a dead gandpa. But whatever you fantasise about it, the truth is that you are nothing but a delayed corpse. (October 4, 2019 at 3:28 am)Cod Wrote:Yet another one that has surrendered to death. The 2'nd Person of the Trinity has provided the one way to defeat death.* Only about 1/3 will available themselves of the solution.**(October 4, 2019 at 2:15 am)snowtracks Wrote: That makes the point: atheists do not stand up to death, they allow it to push them around.* *Hebrews 2: 14,15 - 14 so that by his death he would destroy the one who had the power of death 15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. **1. Zech 13:8-9 It will come about in all the land, Declares the LORD, That two parts in it will be cut off and perish; but the third will be left in it. And I will bring the third part through the fire, Refine them as silver is refined, and test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, and I will answer them; They are My people, and they will say, The LORD is my God.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
Yes another one who has surrendered to wishful thinking. Each of the three persons of trinity provided a way to ignore what is most probably true in favor of what really sounds nice to the infantile mind.
(September 15, 2019 at 6:24 am)Grandizer Wrote: I think the belief in a risen Jesus is better explained by potential naturalistic explanations than by a potential supernatural one, and you don't even need to argue the Gospels are complete myths to come up with a naturalistic explanation that's more compelling than a miracle case. One example: Joseph of Arimathea ended up moving Jesus' body to a private place during the night, in the hope that it would make things easier for the Messiah to come back to life and fulfill the expectations that he was supposed to meet. When that didn't happen, Jesus' body nevertheless stayed there and was never moved back to the original tomb. Joseph also decided not to let anyone know about this, so when rumors spread that Jesus had risen, he chose not to say anything about it. It wasn't at the time it was going on. remember from the same book you get the resurrection narrative you also get a record of hundreds of people who saw jesus including some of the jewish Anti christian temple officials. If Christ's body had been simply moved and he had failed to have resurrected he would have just been another on of the hundreds of false messiahs forgotten to time. The story persists because it an absolute in the time when it was most scrutinized. Even some of the temple leadership were convinced as well as non partisan unaffiliated historians. Not to mention the men tied to this event were still going around the country side reproducing a lot of the same things Jesus did when he was still alive. In fact according to christ many more ludicrously impossible things the church would be able to do once he went back to the Father. Like it or not the reason any religion survives is it makes good on the promises it makes. The primary here being Christian puts the believe directly before God, no filters no middle men. (so say the bible if you are in a form of christian that says other wise then, know the bible/Jesus himself says God himself via the Holy Spirit is available to you personally. It is on this idea this promise this religion has lasted. NO OTHER RELIGION not judaism not islam not buddhism puts the common person in each and every case before God. All other religions demand prophets emissaries and priests. (October 4, 2019 at 1:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(October 4, 2019 at 3:28 am)Cod Wrote: Nobody 'turns the tables' on death. No amount of wishful thinking can ever change that...Yet another one that has surrendered to death. The 2'nd Person of the Trinity has provided the one way to defeat death.* Only about 1/3 will avail themselves of the solution.**
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
(October 4, 2019 at 1:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(October 4, 2019 at 3:28 am)Cod Wrote: Nobody 'turns the tables' on death. No amount of wishful thinking can ever change that...Yet another one that has surrendered to death. The 2'nd Person of the Trinity has provided the one way to defeat death.* Only about 1/3 will available themselves of the solution.** Please explain why I should be in the slightest bit interested in that nonsense. Plus, who says that an afterlife under your God is all it's cracked up to be? You don't even know what you are letting yourself in for... Could be really shite. (October 4, 2019 at 4:14 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(October 4, 2019 at 1:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Yet another one that has surrendered to death. The 2'nd Person of the Trinity has provided the one way to defeat death.* Only about 1/3 will avail themselves of the solution.** "And they shall stand in despair before the white cliffs of the world, and shall chant from their empty tomes in vain, for their words are nothing! And Erú shall prevail against His enemies and they shall be cast into the Void, for their enchantments are naught and their gods are helpless before Him." (The Silmarillion, 17:82) Checkmate Christians!
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
the belief of resurrection even without evidence is the basis of Christianity!
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