Islam slave trade

[WinterHold]

Pointing out that you're a silly hypocrite, and insisting that your argument is wrong because you're a silly hypocrite aren't the same thing.

One is just an insult..and, fact check, true.  The other would be a fallacy.  

The nature of empire is brutality.  It doesn't matter who's empire, or what god sanctioned it, lol.  The ummah was a scourge on humanity in precisely the same way and for precisely the same reasons as the feudal apparatus leveraged toward conquest of the "holy" land.  Two squabbling bunches of assholes fighting over pixie kissed dirt.

I consider you a reader in history; the constant ignoring of the condition of slaves between the Muslim empire and the crusaders + the European colonists is...baffling.

But again; I post real history -which you should be very familiar with- for you:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-59889-p...pid1938649

For the readers of the topic; I -atlass- responded to the rubbish xenophobia & islamophoebic posts which the user -Fake Messiah- was vomiting everywhere in the shoutbox.

He hides real history of how Islam during the time of prophet Mohammed -peace be upon him- the black face that was officially appointed to declare the call for the prayer everyday; and also climbes the Ka'aba to declare the victory of Muslims against the heathen slavers of Mecca: his infamous nemesis:

This is the article about Bilal -pace be upon him-:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilal_ibn_Rabah

Then, after hundreds of years, a Muslim empire managed to kill the mongol invasions to the world by defeating the mongols and save the world; this Islamic empire was ruled by ex-slaves that the tolerance of Islam led them to rule even rule the empire:

https://www.thoughtco.com/who-were-the-mamluks-195371

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk_Sultanate_(Cairo)

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Decensy suggests that you mention real, authentic history instead of bellydancing around texts while cherry picking; it's not good for the head

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Well we got him cornered, and he is stuck like a broken record:

crusaders were cannibals!
Tu quoque!
rinse and repeat.

So, Atlas which part of

In other words:
#1 Yes lots of christian slavery
#2 Slavery is bad
#3 Were muslims involed just as knee deep in slavery?
#4 Fuck, yes! If not more!
#5 Does that make them any better or not (than christians)?
#6 No
#7 Does that make someone like you, trying to whitewash #3, ignore or blatantly lie about it a bigot and hypocrite?
#8 Fuk, yes

did you not understand? Need further explanation?

He has stopped to reply to the topic of slavery, which is the actual topic of the fucking thread. Why no retorts Atlas? Please tell us how muslims never enslaved anyone, or how its others peoples´fault if they did.

Well just for fun, lets remind him of some homework he needs to do.
Was there slavery under the Abbasids?
Did the Mamluks have slaves?
Did muslims enslave non muslims en masse in the barbary trade?
Did the Ottomans have slaves?
Did muslims enslave muslims and non muslims alike en masse during the arab slave trade around and across the indian ocean?
Didnt all muslim empires and all the reigning dynasties have slaves at all times in history?
Did muslims invade Spain and utterly destroy visigoth culture?
Did muslims destroy the Byzantine empire and its culture?
Did muslims destoy the Sassanid empire, its religion and culture?
What business had Abd ar-Rahman at Tours and Poitiers?
etc.
pp.

got anything factual to say, or want to keep up the deafening silence?

What a fucking hypocritcal, lying, bigoted, racist whining little bitch. What an colossal piece of shit he is. Allah will not be amused. Aaaaand the virgins will go to ..........

Please; relax and comeback to write more coherent reply; and let your xenophobia out.
I know it's hard for someone like you; but have some respect for yourself please.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

LOL. .

[Deesse23]

Please; relax and comeback to write more coherent reply; and let your xenophobia out.
I know it's hard for someone like you; but have some respect for yourself please.

I am xenophobic while you are accusing "white people" in general!? Right. Try to google "coherent" for a change.

Now back on topic(s). Do you have anything to say, anything to defend your BS claims, or are you gonna be the fucking hypocritcal, lying, bigoted, racist whining little bitch we have you identifed to be? Is that all you have, to attack the messenger, shout "to quoque" instead of adressing the message?

Did Muslims have slaves? Oh yeah, they treated them well, didnt they. They were so nice to their slaves. That made them good slaveholders, didnt it?
Did the Mamluks "save the world" from Mongols?
Scoll up and go a few pages back, theres a lot of homework for you, son.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Did Muslims have slaves? Oh yeah, they treated them well, didnt they. They were so nice to their slaves. That made them good slaveholders, didnt it?

The Muslims used to use eunuchs as harem guards. To make absolutely sure there was no fooling around some of the slaves had their penis completely removed. One in ten survived that operation. This made the survivors valuable.

[Deesse23]

Did Muslims have slaves? Oh yeah, they treated them well, didnt they. They were so nice to their slaves. That made them good slaveholders, didnt it?

The Muslims used to use eunuchs as harem guards. To make absolutely sure there was no fooling around some of the slaves had their penis completely removed. One in ten survived that operation. This made the survivors valuable.

I am confident that either
#1 this was a good thing
or
#2 someone else is to blame

Oh, and i just detected a "tu quoque"...it was... wait, it was somewhere here....its.....man, just a minute ago....i could swear....must have lost it somewhere   
Well, nevemind, ill find it some day. In the meantime i am gonna cannibalize around a bit.

[LastPoet]

Atlas is just am immature fellow that likes to throw sand on people's eyes just to try to excuse the barbaric religion he was raised on. Just look at the hilarious thread about splitting the moon. There is no point in discussing anything with him as he will go on tangents, move the goal posts, play thr vyctym and blame everyone else for the misfortunes of muslims, misfortunes brought upon by themselves by the silly belief in mohammed, the child molestor warlord and his fabled Allah.

If anything he is a live evidence on how much fucked up one can get by religion. So much zeal... He reminds me of MysticKnight, that also went down the rabbit hole.

Oh well, mabe this conversation will be read by others that have sturdier minds.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Atlas is just am immature fellow that likes to throw sand on people's eyes just to try to excuse the barbaric religion he was raised on. Just look at the hilarious thread about splitting the moon. There is no point in discussing anything with him as he will go on tangents, move the goal posts, play thr vyctym and blame everyone else for the misfortunes of muslims, misfortunes brought upon by themselves by the silly belief in mohammed, the child molestor warlord and his fabled Allah.

If anything he is a live evidence on how much fucked up one can get by religion. So much zeal... He reminds me of MysticKnight, that also went down the rabbit hole.

Oh well, mabe this conversation will be read by others that have sturdier minds.

Yeah, pour les encourager outres.

[Athene]

Oh, look...
GZ's all indignant and outraged at the mere thought of his despicably shitty line of thinking being applied to folks who happen to look like him.

What a great guy.

If you don't like the facts you can always take the river up to Aswan.

LMFAO..If you're going to not-so-cleverly suggest that I "Go back to Africa", the least you could exercise is due diligence and ask where my ancestors hailed from.

So allow me to assist--
Cameroon. I'm Tikar, bitch.

Now try again. 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

If you don't like the facts you can always take the river up to Aswan.

LMFAO..If you're going to not-so-cleverly suggest that I "Go back to Africa", the least you could exercise is due diligence and ask where my ancestors hailed from.

So allow me to assist--
Cameroon. I'm Tikar, bitch.

Now try again. 

No, I was suggesting you go up De Nile.

[WinterHold]

Atlas is just am immature fellow that likes to throw sand on people's eyes just to try to excuse the barbaric religion he was raised on. Just look at the hilarious thread about splitting the moon. There is no point in discussing anything with him as he will go on tangents, move the goal posts, play thr vyctym and blame everyone else for the misfortunes of muslims, misfortunes brought upon by themselves by the silly belief in mohammed, the child molestor warlord and his fabled Allah.

If anything he is a live evidence on how much fucked up one can get by religion. So much zeal... He reminds me of MysticKnight, that also went down the rabbit hole.

Oh well, mabe this conversation will be read by others that have sturdier minds.

I gave evidence on every word I said from accredited sources; how you respond to the accredited history sources is between you and your consciousness.