Is eating hunted meat ethical?

[Tom Fearnley]

I'm trying to be a vegan as I think it's ethical. However animals in the wild, like Richard Dawkins says, suffer horrible deaths whilst in the wild. Hunting them and shooting them killing them quickly then consuming their meat is still therefore ethical maybe? The animal will feel less pain in its lifetime if shot to death than if it died naturally in the wild.

Correct?

[Alex K]

I'm trying to be a vegan as I think it's ethical. However animals in the wild, like Richard Dawkins says, suffer horrible deaths whilst in the wild. Hunting them and shooting them killing them quickly then consuming their meat is still therefore ethical maybe? The animal will feel less pain in its lifetime if shot to death than if it died naturally in the wild.

Correct?

That's not how ethics ever work though. All round mercy killings to fight against suffering, that's a Hollywood supervillain's notion of morality.

[Shell B]

I think any animal that is killed quickly and never treated inhumanely is fair "game."

[Sal]

(Commercial) "lab-grown" meat couldn't come fast enough.

[brewer]

I think you might want to address the sport/trophy hunting ethics. Killing animals for food is ethical.

[Tom Fearnley]

I'm trying to be a vegan as I think it's ethical. However animals in the wild, like Richard Dawkins says, suffer horrible deaths whilst in the wild. Hunting them and shooting them killing them quickly then consuming their meat is still therefore ethical maybe? The animal will feel less pain in its lifetime if shot to death than if it died naturally in the wild.

Correct?

That's not how ethics ever work though. All round mercy killings to fight against suffering, that's a Hollywood supervillain's notion of morality.

Mercy killing would cause the animal less suffering.

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I think any animal that is killed quickly and never treated inhumanely is fair "game."

1) If we were all vegan there would be no starving people?
2) Animals killed on the farm feel pain when killed (being electrocuted then bolted in the head would hurt a lot. Sometimes the machine goes wrong and the bolt doesn't kill the animal "quickly", causing even more suffering to the animal.)
3) A meat eater diet damages the environment more so than a vegan one.

[GrandizerII]

It's probably not ethical if we think of animals having rights and such. But ultimately, I eat meat because I love meat and feel that I need to eat meat every now and then in order to survive. Whether it's hunted meat or otherwise, it's basically the same from my POV. I don't pretend there's anything ethical much about this.

And letting it die naturally [in the wild] isn't necessarily less ethical than shooting it. Replace [non-human] animal with human and you'll see what I mean.

[Abaddon_ire]

I'm trying to be a vegan as I think it's ethical. However animals in the wild, like Richard Dawkins says, suffer horrible deaths whilst in the wild. Hunting them and shooting them killing them quickly then consuming their meat is still therefore ethical maybe? The animal will feel less pain in its lifetime if shot to death than if it died naturally in the wild.

Correct?

Not really. Why must you raise topics that are currently in question on active threads?

Is it an odd fetish or something?

[Tom Fearnley]

I'm trying to be a vegan as I think it's ethical. However animals in the wild, like Richard Dawkins says, suffer horrible deaths whilst in the wild. Hunting them and shooting them killing them quickly then consuming their meat is still therefore ethical maybe? The animal will feel less pain in its lifetime if shot to death than if it died naturally in the wild.

Correct?

Not really. Why must you raise topics that are currently in question on active threads?

Is it an odd fetish or something?

THIS is an active topic? REALLY? You wouldn't think.

Why "not really"?

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It's probably not ethical if we think of animals having rights and such. But ultimately, I eat meat because I love meat and feel that I need to eat meat every now and then in order to survive. Whether it's hunted meat or otherwise, it's basically the same from my POV. I don't pretend there's anything ethical much about this.

And letting it die naturally [in the wild] isn't necessarily less ethical than shooting it. Replace [non-human] animal with human and you'll see what I mean.

I don't eat animals because they feel pain EDIT: but hunted animals would feel a lot less pain than if kept in the wild to suffer and die naturally.. I don't think they have the "Right To Live" like humans do. We can decide for them if hunted meat perhaps?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Not really. Why must you raise topics that are currently in question on active threads?

Is it an odd fetish or something?

THIS is an active topic? REALLY? You wouldn't think.

Why "not really"?

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It's probably not ethical if we think of animals having rights and such. But ultimately, I eat meat because I love meat and feel that I need to eat meat every now and then in order to survive. Whether it's hunted meat or otherwise, it's basically the same from my POV. I don't pretend there's anything ethical much about this.

And letting it die naturally [in the wild] isn't necessarily less ethical than shooting it. Replace [non-human] animal with human and you'll see what I mean.

I don't eat animals because they feel pain EDIT: but hunted animals would feel a lot less pain than if kept in the wild to suffer and die naturally.. I don't think they have the "Right To Live" like humans do. We can decide for them if hunted meat perhaps?

Then again, the argument could be made that hunting is less  ethical, because it's disrupting the natural order.  Suppose Joe shoots a deer.  That deer may have shat out seeds that would have grown into plants which could have provided food, shelter and breeding/nesting areas for dozens of species.  Without those plants, hundreds of individual organisms may experience pain and suffering which would otherwise have been avoided.

Have a steak and calm down.

Boru