how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?

[Duty]

Views of co-founder of movement = /= definition of movement policy.

[The Grand Nudger]

Another variant on the same question. Rock and a hard place, does Agno oppose marxism, or does he agree with fascism?

Temet nosce.

Suppose that the co-founder of BLM does determine the positions of the entire movement. Would he oppose BLM because he disagrees with marxism, or because he believes that The Donald is not a fascist.

It's such a simple fucking question. Couldn't throw a softer ball. I'm amazed that he's having trouble deciding where his loyalties lie. Hell, I'm amazed if the real trouble he's having is just saying outright where his loyalties lie. If he's a goddamned fascist, what's the problem with saying so? These no-neck motherfuckers are never going to win if they can't muster the courage of their own convictions. You could stand me up at the gates of hell and I won't back down. If they can't find their nuts on a forum full of randos...we have nothing to worry about in the end.

[downbeatplumb]

-and so you'll oppose it, because he's your man - even if deep down you know that the other guy is right.  

That's how people like you are broken.  When the koolaid gets passed around, what are the odds on you drinking it?

biden is not right.. neither is sanders. biden is a sad old globalist who will be replaced by his vice pres inside  month of him taking office. so essentially
 because he has not even picked a running mate you have no idea who the other guy is and you are so slanted it doesn't matter.

Globalism is a good thing and something we should al be working towards.

[Rev. Rye]

As for my reference to Marxism. That is what co-founder of BLM said

https://youtu.be/Pyhy4IvkENg

Ok, they’re Marxists, a group with a rather profound history of despising fascism. If those were my only choices, I’d sooner live in a Marxist state than a fascist one.

Boru

At least there's some room for wiggle room with Marxist ideology. It doesn't even have to be the sort of Marxist-Leninist Communism that thrived through much of the 20th century. Marxism is actually a label with a broad spectrum of ideologies. Even within his own lifetime, Marxism drifted far enough from Marx' ideas that he once said: “what is certain is that I myself am not a Marxist.”

Fascism? No such luck.

[The Grand Nudger]

Globalism may not be a good thing, but it's been good to us. If these america firsters truly have our interests in mind, then they'd be shameless apologists for globalism.

They don't have american interests in mind, they don't believe in america first. They believe in themselves at the expense of the united states. They're members of a death cult which seeks to profit off of the demise of the better man. Wonder where they got that shit from?

[Agnostico]

I guess I was wrong about american schools and australian schools. Fascist leaders can be elected...especially when the populace agrees with fascism.

Do you think that the fascists are right, or do you think that The Donald is not a fascist?

A democratic fascist... LoL... Whatevz

I don't think it's a question of American schools or Aussie ones.
It's a generation thang. The education curriculum was way different before Gen Y. It was more conservative now it's more progressive.

[Rev. Rye]

A democratic fascist... LoL... Whatevz

Like they could be elected democratically and then abolish democracy. It's not that hard.

[The Grand Nudger]

As if no fascist was ever elected. Clearly, it's an issue of the quality of our relative educations..and I think you might want to do something about your system if an american knows better than you. The US is an explicitly right wing and traditionalist culture, as is our system of government, which runs and funds our system of education...which looks to a centuries old document to inform us of how we should live our lives today. This is (partly) why the american far-left is the spitting image of so many other nations moderate right.

Do you think the fascists are right, or do you believe that The Donald is not a fascist?

[Agnostico]

Who gives a shit? Suppose that BLM is a marxist movement, so what? Are you willing to agree with fascists because you dislike whatever you believe that marxism is?

Do you think that the fascists are right, or do you think that The Donald is not a fascist?

So what... So what I said was true
That a BLM co-founder was claiming Marxist ideology

[The Grand Nudger]

Good for the co-founder of BLM. Here..in america, we're allowed to be marxists if we want to.

Do you think that the fascists are right, or do you believe that The Donald is not a fascist?