Changing the banner to promote BLM

[Duty]

As a proportion of arrests/crime/incarceration is absolutely necessary or else the police/criminal interaction, where the hysterical BLM proponents claim blacks are discriminated against through racism, is not isolated due to the entire population of the USA being the captured demographic.

[onlinebiker]

Well worth a watch. Zuby says that in USA 70% of police killings are of whites and 25% are of blacks, but I recall that blacks make up abt 40% of prison inmates, so wouldn't that suggest that, proportionally, white criminals/arestables are more likely to be killed by police than blacks? Maths really ain't my strong point so feel free to correct...

Happy to help. Here’s the way to look at the numbers.

Black people killed by police in the US per million population: 42

White people killed by police in the US per million population: 14

Conclusion: you are three times more likely to be killed by a cop if you’re black than if you’re white.

Rates of arrest/incarceration don’t seem to be a relevant factor.

Boru

Are you more likely to drown in the ocean or in the desert?


Many people conclude that because more black people are killed by police (proportionate to population) as an indication of systemic racism by police.

It is of course only one possibility.

[Duty]

2017 this one but still - yup, BLM looking sadder and sadder by the day - signed, little dick white man 

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Criminal record of George Floyd - 10 months for armed robbery, 8 months for cocaine, 10 months for cocaine, 10 months for cocaine, 5 years for armed home invasion including pressing his pistol to the pregnant resident's stomach, then his trying to pass off a fake bill while high on Fentanyl and crystal meth - the offence which lead to his death. To say he was no saint would be an understatement. I'm not saying he deserved death, but I do not feel it would be appropriate to lionise such an individual in any way or denote them a martyr either.

From 8 mins for the criminal record:
 

[The Valkyrie]

Certainly not a saint, but his death is just the latest in a long line of questionable deaths at the hands of an over zealous, militarised police force.

Yes, people of all ethnicities have been killed, but it seems more likely that the cops can kill a black person and get away with it than they can with a white person.

[Rev. Rye]

Yeah, no shit Floyd had a checkered past. He was sentenced to jail 8 times back when he lived in Houston. Thing is, that's entirely irrelevant to the actual incident of his death. Those crimes happened in Houston, several years before he moved to Minnesota. In an arrest like this, what he did in another city does not matter. Maybe if the matter went to court, then it would, but they didn't do so. What matters is the circumstances surrounding the specific arrest. And the circumstances:

For the record, play this song and imagine that for every second, a guy's neck is pressing your neck to the concrete. And not only is he pressing so hard that you're finding it hard to breathe,  but when the intro starts to shift gear around 5:53, you lose consciousness. You never regain it:




And, furthermore, imagine that there's a crowd of people watching, and most of the people there are pleading with the guy to ease up on his strangulation. He refuses. Because he's a cop, and even as the people who aren't pleading for your life are filming it, there's been a lot of precedent saying that he can get off with a slap on the wrist. 

And why is this happening to you? Because you passed off a counterfeit $20 as real while buying smokes. Unless Floyd told Chauvin about his previous arrests and bragged about them, or if, in the 18 minutes between the police being notified of the crime and Chauvin taking a knee to Floyd's neck, they got into talks with the Houston PD and they gave them his arrest record, there's no way they could have known about his previous record, and I've found ZERO indication that either happened. And even if they did, there's no way he deserved a death like that.

[Duty]

And why is this happening to you? Because you passed off a counterfeit $20 as real while buying smokes.

And refused to return the smokes when the cashier asked. And resisted arrest, refusing to get into the back of a police car, and the officer's were incapable of forcing him into the car due to his being very big and strong, despite trying to talk him down etc for a long time, so tried to pacify him with the (ridiculous but authorised) neck-kneeling. you missed that part out rev.

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Certainly not a saint, but his death is just the latest in a long line of questionable deaths at the hands of an over zealous, militarised police force.

Yes, people of all ethnicities have been killed, but it seems more likely that the cops can kill a black person and get away with it than they can with a white person.

If I were a cop in the US I'd be...on edge, what with the number of firearms in civilian hands, but yes, police training fail is evident.

My bold: I guess that's the real crux of the issue. Whether that's a uniform fact or it just "seems" that way..well, I read that the killers through suffocation of white Tony Timpa (who also repeatedly said "I can'y breathe") didn't even lose their jobs so.....

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Yeah, no shit Floyd had a checkered past. He was sentenced to jail 8 times back when he lived in Houston. Thing is, that's entirely irrelevant to the actual incident of his death. Those crimes happened in Houston, several years before he moved to Minnesota. In an arrest like this, what he did in another city does not matter. 

Perhaps his career-criminal jailbird history is fundamental as to why he died - in that he couldn't bear the thought of going back to prison YET AGAIN and that's why he resisted arrest so vehemently.

[Draconic Aiur]

2017 this one but still - yup, BLM looking sadder and sadder by the day - signed, little dick white man 

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Criminal record of George Floyd - 10 months for armed robbery, 8 months for cocaine, 10 months for cocaine, 10 months for cocaine, 5 years for armed home invasion including pressing his pistol to the pregnant resident's stomach, then his trying to pass off a fake bill while high on Fentanyl and crystal meth - the offence which lead to his death. To say he was no saint would be an understatement. I'm not saying he deserved death, but I do not feel it would be appropriate to lionise such an individual in any way or denote them a martyr either.

From 8 mins for the criminal record:
 

Sauce?

[Duty]

Dunno.

[Abaddon_ire]

And why is this happening to you? Because you passed off a counterfeit $20 as real while buying smokes.

And refused to return the smokes when the cashier asked. And resisted arrest, refusing to get into the back of a police car, and the officer's were incapable of forcing him into the car due to his being very big and strong, despite trying to talk him down etc for a long time, so tried to pacify him with the (ridiculous but authorised) neck-kneeling. you missed that part out rev.

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Certainly not a saint, but his death is just the latest in a long line of questionable deaths at the hands of an over zealous, militarised police force.

Yes, people of all ethnicities have been killed, but it seems more likely that the cops can kill a black person and get away with it than they can with a white person.

If I were a cop in the US I'd be...on edge, what with the number of firearms in civilian hands, but yes, police training fail is evident.

My bold: I guess that's the real crux of the issue. Whether that's a uniform fact or it just "seems" that way..well, I read that the killers through suffocation of white Tony Timpa (who also repeatedly said "I can'y breathe") didn't even lose their jobs so.....

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Yeah, no shit Floyd had a checkered past. He was sentenced to jail 8 times back when he lived in Houston. Thing is, that's entirely irrelevant to the actual incident of his death. Those crimes happened in Houston, several years before he moved to Minnesota. In an arrest like this, what he did in another city does not matter. 

Perhaps his career-criminal jailbird history is fundamental as to why he died - in that he couldn't bear the thought of going back to prison YET AGAIN and that's why he resisted arrest so vehemently.

Amusing. The UK is competing with the US for how awful it can be. 

I am willing to bet you have not watched that man die on the street.

I am willing to bet that you do not know that when the EMTs rocked up they could not access the patient because the cop was in the way with his knee on the neck AND REFUSED TO GET OFF.

I am willing to bet you don't know that this did not matter because the man was already dead long before that.

The hell with your comfy little life. 

I have seen enough people die that I know it when I see it. It is in the video. You can see the moment when life passes. I have seen it more often than I care to think about. That was long before EMT rocked up. They knew they were dealing with a corpse when they arrived within seconds.

So what is your position? Do Black Lives Matter? Or do they not?

[Duty]

Wrong on every count. See my sig RE your question. The hell with my comfy little life? Go back to your phone and carry on convincing confused and misled children that they need to transition to the opposite sex in order to be happy. In other words - fuck you.