Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Nonsense. Most terrorists have goals.

Boru

But they keep the terrorism going even after their "so called goals" are achieved.
Just like a rock rolling on a cliff: they just keep rolling and rolling.

They justify the rolling on the cliff with everything but the disease that made them roll in the first place.
Take this terrorist Tarrant. First he shot Muslims, then he was going to shoot more Muslims in a second mosque, then he was going to kill Africans, then Asians, then his own kin.

Didn't we see an identical right extremist in Norway?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

Motive Far-right extremism, Islamophobia[12]

77 white Europeans were killed.

Don't you see the exact same motives?
It's a rock falling down a cliff, crushing Muslims, whites, black, Asians, whatever.

There's no grand goal. There's simply hate and grudge encapsulated in a ghost of an ideology to make a mirage that it's something other than "pure evil and hate". A disease brought to one by himself.

More nonsense. Terrorists keep going precisely because their goals have NOT been achieved.

And if you think the goal of any group of terrorists is simply to kill people, you should study up.

Boru

[WinterHold]

But they keep the terrorism going even after their "so called goals" are achieved.
Just like a rock rolling on a cliff: they just keep rolling and rolling.

They justify the rolling on the cliff with everything but the disease that made them roll in the first place.
Take this terrorist Tarrant. First he shot Muslims, then he was going to shoot more Muslims in a second mosque, then he was going to kill Africans, then Asians, then his own kin.

Didn't we see an identical right extremist in Norway?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks


77 white Europeans were killed.

Don't you see the exact same motives?
It's a rock falling down a cliff, crushing Muslims, whites, black, Asians, whatever.

There's no grand goal. There's simply hate and grudge encapsulated in a ghost of an ideology to make a mirage that it's something other than "pure evil and hate". A disease brought to one by himself.

More nonsense. Terrorists keep going precisely because their goals have NOT been achieved.

And if you think the goal of any group of terrorists is simply to kill people, you should study up.

Boru

We first have complexity that grows a person into a hatred engine, let the complexity be an inferiority complex for example that escalates to a more severe form of superiority complex.

A person for example feels weak, thus they go buy a rifle and empty it on the defenseless to feel "superior".

Take Hitler. He felt so weak after Germany was defeated in WW1; thus he spent the rest of his life repeating the same action of killing the weak over and over until he killed himself.

Take the terrorist Tarrant. He felt so disrespected and shamed because of his father's job: his father was a garbage collector. Thus to feel superior he needed to cover his inferiority complex -just like Hitler- by shooting and killing innocents.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/4242...man-s-past

It's that simple.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

More nonsense. Terrorists keep going precisely because their goals have NOT been achieved.

And if you think the goal of any group of terrorists is simply to kill people, you should study up.

Boru

We first have complexity that grows a person into a hatred engine, let the complexity be an inferiority complex for example that escalates to a more severe form of superiority complex.

A person for example feels weak, thus they go buy a rifle and empty it on the defenseless to feel "superior".

Take Hitler. He felt so weak after Germany was defeated in WW1; thus he spent the rest of his life repeating the same action of killing the weak over and over until he killed himself.

Take the terrorist Tarrant. He felt so disrespected and shamed because of his father's job: his father was a garbage collector. Thus to feel superior he needed to cover his inferiority complex -just like Hitler- by shooting and killing innocents.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/4242...man-s-past

It's that simple.

That speaks to motivation (how someone becomes a terrorist), not goals (what terrorist want to accomplish).

What you’ve said is simplistic, not simple.

Boru

[WinterHold]

That speaks to motivation (how someone becomes a terrorist), not goals (what terrorist want to accomplish).

What you’ve said is simplistic, not simple.

Boru

Complexities are emotions; emotions don't have goals; they are rather "needs" that need to be constantly satisfied -just like drugs-.
Terrorists want to fill a certain need inside them, just like any other human. But when your "need" is to see people fearing you to the degree of fleeing you on sight, then you are simply a terrorist.

That's not a goal. That's complexity.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

That speaks to motivation (how someone becomes a terrorist), not goals (what terrorist want to accomplish).

What you’ve said is simplistic, not simple.

Boru

Complexities are emotions; emotions don't have goals; they are rather "needs" that need to be constantly satisfied -just like drugs-.
Terrorists want to fill a certain need inside them, just like any other human. But when your "need" is to see people fearing you to the degree of fleeing you on sight, then you are simply a terrorist.

That's not a goal. That's complexity.

You’re  confusing actions with the emotions that precipitate them.

Breivik wanted Muslims out of Europe. This is a goal.

Tarrant wanted a gun rights war (the shooting kind) in the US. This is a goal.

The 9-11 people (and those who followed them) wanted the US out the Middle East.  This is a goal.

The IRA wanted the re-unification of Ireland.  This is a goal.

'Terrorism' isn't simply violence, it is violence towards a political end. Shooting people simply because you like to watch them run away may be a terrifying act, but it isn't terrorism.

Boru

[WinterHold]

Complexities are emotions; emotions don't have goals; they are rather "needs" that need to be constantly satisfied -just like drugs-.
Terrorists want to fill a certain need inside them, just like any other human. But when your "need" is to see people fearing you to the degree of fleeing you on sight, then you are simply a terrorist.

That's not a goal. That's complexity.

Your confusing actions with the emotions that precipitate them.

Breivik wanted Muslims out of Europe. This is a goal.

Tarrant wanted a gun rights war (the shooting kind) in the US. This is a goal.

The 9-11 people (and those who followed them) wanted the US out the Middle East.  This is a goal.

The IRA wanted the re-unification of Ireland.  This is a goal.

'Terrorism' isn't simply violence, it is violence towards a political end. Shooting people simply because you like to watch them run away may be a terrifying act, but it isn't terrorism.

Boru

But one of the definite conclusions of a person getting emotions repressed inside them is their burst in the form of "actions", just like a toddler kicking and crying when they fail at something, or a grownup crying and kicking the door when they are frustrated.

I'm saying that both terrorists got frustrated with something -or a series of things- that led them to outburst their negative, fatal emotions.
The so called "goals" they claimed serving are a mere mirage, just a ghost to encapsulate their outburst with a justification.

Humans love to justify the disasters they do; some will tell you they raped their girlfriend "because they loved her", others will tell you the beat their kids because "they wanted them to be perfect", others will tell you they shot Muslims in a mosque "to fight the Islamic invasion".
But very few will admit the shit they actually did and caused, very few will have the guts to face their victims and say: "I killed your family and friends because I felt inferior and ashamed that my dad is a garbage collector".

[Angrboda]

But one of the definite conclusions of a person getting emotions repressed inside them is their burst in the form of "actions", just like a toddler kicking and crying when they fail at something, or a grownup crying and kicking the door when they are frustrated.

Citation needed.

[Silver]

Normal people get frustrated and they punch a pillow.

There is nothing normal about wrapping a bomb about one's person and blowing up people.

[WinterHold]

But one of the definite conclusions of a person getting emotions repressed inside them is their burst in the form of "actions", just like a toddler kicking and crying when they fail at something, or a grownup crying and kicking the door when they are frustrated.

Citation needed.

[My room's door which has a mark]-Book of Life.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Your confusing actions with the emotions that precipitate them.

Breivik wanted Muslims out of Europe. This is a goal.

Tarrant wanted a gun rights war (the shooting kind) in the US. This is a goal.

The 9-11 people (and those who followed them) wanted the US out the Middle East.  This is a goal.

The IRA wanted the re-unification of Ireland.  This is a goal.

'Terrorism' isn't simply violence, it is violence towards a political end. Shooting people simply because you like to watch them run away may be a terrifying act, but it isn't terrorism.

Boru

But one of the definite conclusions of a person getting emotions repressed inside them is their burst in the form of "actions", just like a toddler kicking and crying when they fail at something, or a grownup crying and kicking the door when they are frustrated.

I'm saying that both terrorists got frustrated with something -or a series of things- that led them to outburst their negative, fatal emotions.
The so called "goals" they claimed serving are a mere mirage, just a ghost to encapsulate their outburst with a justification.

Humans love to justify the disasters they do; some will tell you they raped their girlfriend "because they loved her", others will tell you the beat their kids because "they wanted them to be perfect", others will tell you they shot Muslims in a mosque "to fight the Islamic invasion".
But very few will admit the shit they actually did and caused, very few will have the guts to face their victims and say: "I killed your family and friends because I felt inferior and ashamed that my dad is a garbage collector".

None of which has anything to do with terrorist goals.

Boru