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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
January 9, 2021 at 6:32 am
(January 9, 2021 at 6:20 am)WinterHold Wrote: (January 9, 2021 at 4:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, it isn't really up to you to redefine the terms of the rules. Necroposting means responding to a thread that has been inactive for more than 30 days.
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Rule number 22 demands that the Necroposting be either Egregious or disruptive.
My topic updates are neither Egregious or disruptive in my opinion.
Please tell me why you consider the constant updates of an open case like the murder of Kashoggi to be disruptive or egregious.
Thank you.
Again, your opinion is irrelevant, but I'll play along.
Your necroposting about the Khashoggi murder is disruptive because you're being hypocritical - the thread was dormant for more than two months when you re-opened it. If you were making 'constant' updates, the dormancy wouldn't have happened.
Furthermore, you're dragging in irrelevancies or stories that are only tangentially related to the murder. Posting a link to a film about the murder isn't an update on the case.
In addition, you're lying about the current importance of the story. Simply because you, personally, happen to be obsessed with it doesn't make it a hot topic.
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
January 13, 2021 at 2:11 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2021 at 2:14 pm by WinterHold.)
Hilary Clinton tweeted about the "Dissident" documentary that speaks about the murder of Kashoggi by MBS:
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/statu...7677215746
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If you haven't seen #TheDissident, I hope that you will. This incredibly powerful documentary about the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi at the hands of the Saudi government is available to watch now:
For anybody saying that this topic has no place in these times; I tell them that this is the perfect time to investigate the role of Trump in this crime; this crime could be the first charge that sends him to jail for good.
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
January 13, 2021 at 5:09 pm
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(January 13, 2021 at 2:11 pm)WinterHold Wrote: For anybody saying that this topic has no place in these times; I tell them that this is the perfect time to investigate the role of Trump in this crime; this crime could be the first charge that sends him to jail for good.
Wow, so you are blaming Trump for something that happened in your country. People in the US have voted Trump out, fired him; or do you maybe want the US to do something more, like invade Saudi Arabia and take down the regime? Or maybe it's time for you to do something in your country instead of just spending the whole day on the Internet and demanding of other people from far away to do something.
People in SA should look at Trump's impeachment and loss at elections as a lesson that politicians can be punished if people are not just a bunch of whiny crybaby pussies.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
January 13, 2021 at 6:36 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2021 at 6:42 pm by WinterHold.)
(January 13, 2021 at 5:09 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (January 13, 2021 at 2:11 pm)WinterHold Wrote: For anybody saying that this topic has no place in these times; I tell them that this is the perfect time to investigate the role of Trump in this crime; this crime could be the first charge that sends him to jail for good.
Wow, so you are blaming Trump for something that happened in your country. People in the US have voted Trump out, fired him; or do you maybe want the US to do something more, like invade Saudi Arabia and take down the regime? Or maybe it's time for you to do something in your country instead of just spending the whole day on the Internet and demanding of other people from far away to do something.
People in SA should look at Trump's impeachment and loss at elections as a lesson that politicians can be punished if people are not just a bunch of whiny crybaby pussies.
First of all, the CIA reports that exposed MBS were blocked by Trump from reaching the public, and Trump himself admitted that he protected "MBS's ass" :
Second, Joe Biden pledged a promise to make MBS pay for the crime:
Third, without the resources of America and its superior intelligence resources; MBS could've never continue his tyranny for this long without paying the price for the terrible crimes he did.
Forth, the U.S is guilty for letting a criminal like Trump mess with the world and give terrorists like MBS, SISI and Putin the resources they need to butcher innocents; and that is most of Biden's international agenda as he said in his campaign; to fix the mess Trump made.
In other words, the free people of America have a debt to pay. Trump messed our lives as Arabs so badly and made local warlords like MBS get unconditional American military help. Free Americans owe it to themselves and to us as fix the damage Trump made.
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
January 13, 2021 at 6:42 pm
No one cares, mate.
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
January 13, 2021 at 6:45 pm
(January 13, 2021 at 6:42 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No one cares, mate.
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It's a mutual interest. Everybody cares about mutual interests.
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
January 13, 2021 at 6:58 pm
(January 13, 2021 at 6:45 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (January 13, 2021 at 6:42 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No one cares, mate.
Boru
It's a mutual interest. Everybody cares about mutual interests.
There i$ indeed a mutual intere$t, but it’$ not the one you’re thinking of.
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
January 13, 2021 at 9:24 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2021 at 9:27 pm by arewethereyet.)
(January 9, 2021 at 6:20 am)WinterHold Wrote: (January 9, 2021 at 4:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, it isn't really up to you to redefine the terms of the rules. Necroposting means responding to a thread that has been inactive for more than 30 days.
Boru
Rule number 22 demands that the Necroposting be either Egregious or disruptive.
My topic updates are neither Egregious or disruptive in my opinion.
Please tell me why you consider the constant updates of an open case like the murder of Kashoggi to be disruptive or egregious.
Thank you.
This forum is not your personal blog.
Your constant refusal to follow the rules is what makes these posts disruptive.
And - arguing the rules isn't what this thread is about so that is also disruptive.
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
January 14, 2021 at 2:26 am
Yeah, we get it, winterhold, you blame everything on the US, and you don't need to expand on that as that is the regular modus operandi of many Muslims in ME - it's never the violent ideology of the Qur'an and Islam.
This is something that Ali Rizvi explained in his book:
Quote:Growing up in a fairly moderate, progressive Muslim family, I was told myriad political reasons for this supposedly recent rise of militant Islamic fervor in the world. My parents and their friends would discuss it at length during parties and get-togethers. Every root cause under the sun was blamed for the growing fanaticism we saw around us—politics, culture, power, greed, U.S. foreign policy, British colonialism, Arab nationalism, Israel, the media—you name it. But no one seemed to want to connect it to the religion. It was anything, and everything, but the religion itself. Despite being the only common denominator, Islam had nothing to do with it at all, they’d say.
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In time, however, I became convinced that what I had been told was wrong. My elders would tell me, “Ali, it’s not just religion that causes trouble in the world. What about greed? Power? Hate? What about racism and xenophobia? What about nationalism?”
I would find it amusing that in order to defend religion as a good thing, they would lump it into the same category as these terrible things. This was quite telling. So I would agree with them. I would say, “Oh, yes, I completely agree with you that religion is right up there on that list with greed, hate, and xenophobia.”
Now, it’s one thing to say religion is the cause of every ill. Of course it isn’t, and no reasonable person could claim that. But it’s another to never hold religion accountable for any ill, effectively according it a status of honor and immunity that these very same apologists would never give to any of the other terrible things on that list that they themselves put religion on.
And all of this would make me wonder: Was this really about extremists corrupting the religion? Or was it about moderates sanitizing it? I was seeking explanations, but got excuses. Between then and now, they’ve only become more pronounced.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
January 14, 2021 at 6:16 am
(January 13, 2021 at 6:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 13, 2021 at 6:45 pm)WinterHold Wrote: It's a mutual interest. Everybody cares about mutual interests.
There i$ indeed a mutual intere$t, but it’$ not the one you’re thinking of.
Boru
I did think about the other mutual intere$t.
But taking $ through bribes (just like Trump did) would cause the U.S's image to be damaged more and more in the Muslim world; though the option to take $ through other means that would also shines tthe U.S's image is also available.
Biden can be a hero if he wanted to..
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