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Is love real?
#81
RE: Is love real?
(September 23, 2021 at 7:19 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: No need.  He said he has a psychiatrist that wants him to go to a therapist.  He has declined the advice of the doctor and doesn't have a therapist.

...came here instead.  Yay for us!

Aaaanywho, going back through the thread. I think that the painful kind of love mentioned in the op is real, ofc - but I probably wouldn't call it healthy or productive. I guess a person could be more or less quick to love that way, if at all. I think we probably wonder more whether such emotion or ideation is well founded in reality, rather than whether they do or don't exist. As an expression of compelling desire, it writes itself. That it would hurt to be without this, and that it can even hurt to be in it's presence. On the one hand a person may be apprehending the value of a thing, and on the other, their relative inadequacy for the same.
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#82
RE: Is love real?
(September 23, 2021 at 5:58 pm)brewer Wrote: I'm just throwing things against the wall here. Your magical fantasy life may be interfering with real life interactions and behaviors. The evasive 'get with the program' statement leaves me with little else. But I think there may be a something else but you'll continue to be evasive.

And I also think this conversation is over.

So far my experience with Ahri is that the conversation is always over after the first post.  The duck and dive is his best skill.
Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
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#83
RE: Is love real?
No way, you can crank up the deepak chopra generator and he'll engage with it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#84
RE: Is love real?
(September 24, 2021 at 6:34 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: No way, you can crank up the deepak chopra generator and he'll engage with it.

I guess that depends on what you mean by "engage".
Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
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#85
RE: Is love real?
(September 24, 2021 at 6:32 pm)Spongebob Wrote:
(September 23, 2021 at 5:58 pm)brewer Wrote: I'm just throwing things against the wall here. Your magical fantasy life may be interfering with real life interactions and behaviors. The evasive 'get with the program' statement leaves me with little else. But I think there may be a something else but you'll continue to be evasive.

And I also think this conversation is over.

So far my experience with Ahri is that the conversation is always over after the first post.  The duck and dive is his best skill.

It's common in many mental health disorders. Consider it a type of self preservation. He enjoys the fantasy more than most of the negative consequences. Once he encounters a consequence that causes enough harm then he'll attempt correction. But it typically only lasts until he feels no longer in danger of further harm.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#86
RE: Is love real?
(September 22, 2021 at 2:42 pm)Angrboda Wrote: As I lay listening to a romantic song while lying in bed, a line in that song stuck out for me.

"I still carry a flame for you
Burnin' me like a brand"

...

But I still wonder to this day whether love isn't more myth than reality, at least the feeling of it.

Which leads me to wonder, is love real?

I never want to feel that type of "love" again.  It is incredibly painful if it is unrequited.  It is also a form of insanity, even if everything works out.
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#87
RE: Is love real?
(September 24, 2021 at 7:31 pm)brewer Wrote:
(September 24, 2021 at 6:32 pm)Spongebob Wrote: So far my experience with Ahri is that the conversation is always over after the first post.  The duck and dive is his best skill.

It's common in many mental health disorders. Consider it a type of self preservation. He enjoys the fantasy more than most of the negative consequences. Once he encounters a consequence that causes enough harm then he'll attempt correction. But it typically only lasts until he feels no longer in danger of further harm.

It must be some sort of sadistic obsession.  Keeps posting and baiting as if he has something meaningful to discuss, but as you said gets scared and runs off.
Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
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#88
RE: Is love real?
(September 25, 2021 at 9:02 am)Spongebob Wrote:
(September 24, 2021 at 7:31 pm)brewer Wrote: It's common in many mental health disorders. Consider it a type of self preservation. He enjoys the fantasy more than most of the negative consequences. Once he encounters a consequence that causes enough harm then he'll attempt correction. But it typically only lasts until he feels no longer in danger of further harm.

It must be some sort of sadistic obsession.  Keeps posting and baiting as if he has something meaningful to discuss, but as you said gets scared and runs off.

I think he has schizotypal traits.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#89
RE: Is love real?
(September 25, 2021 at 9:02 am)Spongebob Wrote:
(September 24, 2021 at 7:31 pm)brewer Wrote: It's common in many mental health disorders. Consider it a type of self preservation. He enjoys the fantasy more than most of the negative consequences. Once he encounters a consequence that causes enough harm then he'll attempt correction. But it typically only lasts until he feels no longer in danger of further harm.

It must be some sort of sadistic obsession.  Keeps posting and baiting as if he has something meaningful to discuss, but as you said gets scared and runs off.
If you could explain this in further detail, I might consider going to therapy. I would want something to actually discuss with the therapist, not just random bullshit. And no, discussing my online posting habits doesn't count.
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#90
RE: Is love real?
(September 25, 2021 at 9:17 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(September 25, 2021 at 9:02 am)Spongebob Wrote: It must be some sort of sadistic obsession.  Keeps posting and baiting as if he has something meaningful to discuss, but as you said gets scared and runs off.
If you could explain this in further detail, I might consider going to therapy. I would want something to actually discuss with the therapist, not just random bullshit. And no, discussing my online posting habits doesn't count.

You want me to explain why you can't face your own triggers?  Hah, hilarious.  This isn't much different from anti-vaxxers; just avoid the most likely avenues for help.
Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
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