That Gay Thread

[The Grand Nudger]

In the spirit of something completely different - because fuck it why not - I'll share the most painful mistake of my life. ....thusfar.....

I was just coming out of lochloosa, turning left in hawthorne from 301 from citra onto US20 into gainesville (which had been widened since I last saw it and I remember thinking "fuck, this is nice..there's pavement and errything!")...when my ex wife popped the question. Some background.

I'd taken her to Micanopy before to walk the (still) unpaved streets and show her what made me, where I was from. I sang my heart out to Sherry Fraser up and down the slave fence row. It just echoed and echoed on the endless flat expanse of central floridian swamp. It was one of the happiest places in the world for me, from earlier times. Where they always did the 4th even if you couldn't see your hand in front of your face for the fog - fuck a bunch of safety..there was a holiday to celebrate! THE holiday. The triangle between 301, 20, and 441 is my church. The seat of the divine. The one place on earth where I feel fully myself at all times. The place I take people too....when I want to show them my soft belly. Where I know every rock and tree and creature. The place where, like no other place, I have no need of a guard, I have no need of cover, I have no need of anything. It's all there for me, and no thing and no one could ever dislodge me. What the back of my eyelids are painted like so that anytime I close them I see that.

The question...not...would you marry me...but, "be honest.....do you like women? Have you ever been with a man?" I was floored. I was trying to drive a little red celica through the swamp.... while floored. OFC I like women, here you are, we have a child, was I less than enthusiastic in producing her? It didn't seem that way at the time. This, though, was not the day after our little stroll. This was after a tough relationship, where we'd been married for some time but only saw each other for a few months. IDK what prompted it. Maybe I was too friendly with a gay friend, and she felt unsure. I can't even be angry that she asked. If you find yourself wondering if your life partner is actually attracted to you..you might wanna speak up. But there I was, in my church, in my holy place. I couldn't lie. I couldn't withold the truth. I couldn't bend the truth. If I couldn't be honest there where could I be? So I felt compelled to explain to the woman I'd won over in the cheesiest nerdiest way that.... (some maya angelou shit, took two tries - as in, she didn't notice me so I snuck back under her window low and took off my shirt and walked back in front of her window high.......then pointed to her book that I saw her reading...and said...hey, if you want to know why the caged bird sings, you don't have to read that - I can tell you")....... yeah, okay, sure I am attracted to women but I have been with men.

I knew I'd fucked up...immediately. We'd be divorced and separated by 1k miles in just a few short months. It was the last straw for her. Maybe not that I am what I am, but that I'd never trusted her enough to say so. I knew the very moment it dropped from my lips that it was taken as a betrayal.

@Irreligious Atheist Go pound sand.

[Angrboda]

I'm not going to revisit another thread.  Perhaps you are correct, but I've learned through experience that giving you the benefit of the doubt that what you're saying is not wildly inaccurate is a mistake.  Take it for what it's worth.  If you don't understand how your comment was whataboutism, then you truly have shit for brains.  It makes me wonder whether giving you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't making posts in bad faith might also be a mistake.

Nudge just admitted it on this page what he did, so if you still don't accept it, you're just covering for Nudge because you like him, and that's fine that you like him, but you're letting how much you like him cloud your judgment. Arguments aren't supposed to be about popularity contests.

Wildly inaccurate. I'll say this for you, at least you're wildly inaccurate consistently. What's truly amazing is how many inaccuracies you crammed into one short post. You've got skillz.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Nudge just admitted it on this page what he did, so if you still don't accept it, you're just covering for Nudge because you like him, and that's fine that you like him, but you're letting how much you like him cloud your judgment. Arguments aren't supposed to be about popularity contests.

He did no such thing

[The Grand Nudger]

You know I cant remember that poor boys name, that I ghosted. I scrubbed that shit hard. It wasn't even that long ago. Im sitting here frustrated, trying to remember the name of the sweetest man I ever met. I remember my kindergarten teachers name (Ms. Heart) - and btw...that shit is on my official background check.....someone actually interviewed her, but not his. I hope he was over it quick. I bet he was. I'm kindof unimpressive when you really get to know me. Just some dog. Faithful, cheerful, exuberant.... even...but ultimately forgettable. Interchangeable with the next.

[Irreligious Atheist]

In the spirit of something completely different - because fuck it why not - I'll share the most painful mistake of my life.    ....thusfar.....

I was just coming out of lochloosa, turning left in hawthorne from 301 from citra onto US20 into gainesville (which had been widened since I last saw it and I remember thinking "fuck, this is nice..there's pavement and errything!")...when my ex wife popped the question.  Some background.  

I'd taken her to Micanopy before to walk the (still) unpaved streets and show her what made me, where I was from.  I sang my heart out to Sherry Fraser up and down the slave fence row.  It just echoed and echoed on the endless flat expanse of central floridian swamp.  It was one of the happiest places in the world for me, from earlier times.  Where they always did the 4th even if you couldn't see your hand in front of your face for the fog - fuck a bunch of safety..there was a holiday to celebrate!  THE holiday.  The triangle between 301, 20, and 441 is my church.  The seat of the divine.  The one place on earth where I feel fully myself at all times.  The place I take people too....when I want to show them my soft belly.  Where I know every rock and tree and creature.  The place where, like no other place, I have no need of a guard, I have no need of cover, I have no need of anything.  It's all there for me, and no thing and no one could ever dislodge me.  What the back of my eyelids are painted like so that anytime I close them I see that.

The question...not...would you marry me...but, "be honest.....do you like women?  Have you ever been with a man?"  I was floored.  I was trying to drive a little red celica through the swamp.... while floored.  OFC I like women, here you are, we have a child, was I less than enthusiastic in producing her?  It didn't seem that way at the time.  This, though, was not the day after our little stroll.  This was after a tough relationship, where we'd been married for some time but only saw each other for a few months.  IDK what prompted it.  Maybe I was too friendly with a gay friend, and she felt unsure.  I can't even be angry that she asked.  If you find yourself wondering if your life partner is actually attracted to you..you might wanna speak up.  But there I was, in my church, in my holy place.  I couldn't lie.  I couldn't withold the truth.  I couldn't bend the truth.  If I couldn't be honest there where could I be?  So I felt compelled to explain to the woman I'd won over in the cheesiest nerdiest way that....  (some maya angelou shit, took two tries - as in, she didn't notice me so I snuck back under her window low and took off my shirt and walked back in front of her window high.......then pointed to her book that I saw her reading...and said...hey, if you want to know why the caged bird sings, you don't have to read that - I can tell you").......  yeah, okay, sure I am attracted to women but I have been with men.  

I knew I'd fucked up...immediately.  We'd be divorced and separated by 1k miles in just a few short months.  It was the last straw for her.  Maybe not that I am what I am, but that I'd never trusted her enough to say so.

@Irreligious Atheist  Go pound sand.

Thank you for sharing that. I understand that you take this military stuff super personally and I respect that as this is your life or was your life, but we all just need to accept that different queer people are going to have differences when it comes to positive representation. I never came out to anyone until last year, at the age of 34. Thought I would go to my deathbed never admitting it, but my daughter came out as pan and NB, so of course being me, I had to respond by saying you're not special, and that everyone is a little gay.

[The Grand Nudger]

Nudge just admitted it on this page what he did, so if you still don't accept it, you're just covering for Nudge because you like him, and that's fine that you like him, but you're letting how much you like him cloud your judgment. Arguments aren't supposed to be about popularity contests.

Wildly inaccurate.  I'll say this for you, at least you're wildly inaccurate consistently.  What's truly amazing is how many inaccuracies you crammed into one short post.  You've got skillz.

you mean...you don't like me....?  Excuse me while I go drown myself in drink. 

No....IA, you don't respect it. Your entire gripe was that we're a bunch of fucking war criminals...and I'll be honest..when someone says that..I think about commiting at least one warcrime. You launched some doomed fucking objection to it, and to me..... and even if you don't have the courage of your own convictions I will supply them for you. That's what I'm good at. Because I am the infantry, the queen of battle...hooah?


Go....pound.....sand.........asshole. What don't you understand here? Yes, maybe you should acknowledge that there is no such thing as a gay consensus about service, in fact..but that's not what you did , is it? You useful fucking idiot. Never stop being you.....!

[Irreligious Atheist]

Nudge just admitted it on this page what he did, so if you still don't accept it, you're just covering for Nudge because you like him, and that's fine that you like him, but you're letting how much you like him cloud your judgment. Arguments aren't supposed to be about popularity contests.

Wildly inaccurate.  I'll say this for you, at least you're wildly inaccurate consistently.  What's truly amazing is how many inaccuracies you crammed into one short post.  You've got skillz.

OnlineBiker posted on page one https://atheistforums.org/thread-64030.html:

Don't try stuffing words in my mouth honey....

I most certainly did NOT say he used reasonably applied lethal force.

I said it was NOT an execution.

....

And quit with equivocation. This is this case. It's not the last case.

It never is.

The Grand Nudger posted on page 12 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64030-page-11.html :

I wasn't aware that being drunk was a capital offense outside of islamic shitholes.

Grand Nudge basically claimed OnlineBiker was ok with capital punishment for drunk drivers. If you're still confused Angrboda, I can't help you.

[The Architect Of Fate]

It's not Angrboda who's confused here 

[Angrboda]

Wildly inaccurate.  I'll say this for you, at least you're wildly inaccurate consistently.  What's truly amazing is how many inaccuracies you crammed into one short post.  You've got skillz.

OnlineBiker posted on page one https://atheistforums.org/thread-64030.html:

Don't try stuffing words in my mouth honey....

I most certainly did NOT say he used reasonably applied lethal force.

I said it was NOT an execution.

....

And quit with equivocation. This is this case. It's not the last case.

It never is.

The Grand Nudger posted on page 12 https://atheistforums.org/thread-64030-page-11.html :

I wasn't aware that being drunk was a capital offense outside of islamic shitholes.

Grand Nudge basically claimed OnlineBiker was ok with capital punishment for drunk drivers. If you're still confused Angrboda, I can't help you.

Yeah, but the underlying reason for that is that you have shit for brains. Nice way to move the goalposts. Where's the fucking ejection handle on this chair?

[The Grand Nudger]

I laugh, but, see how he seems to have realized something about me...lol. Oh I always loved being called honey and sweetheart in the performance reviews that would decide whether I outranked my assessors.

I always did, in the end....btw......it was difficult for bigots to argue that I wasn't an effective MOUT infantryman. There was a trail of broken bodies and tears in my wake, after all. Turns out a cocksucker just might be dangerous....just might be the pale of death over his ao if his superiors order him to be......

Whoodathunkit...huh?